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[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 0 points 6 months ago

I honestly don't get the hate against Biden. From what I've seen, he's old and he's done a whole lot of good, more than the average democratic president.

Him being the choice over Trump should be an obvious, nearly anyone over Trump is the better choice, so what the hell is wrong with these people wanting to vote trump or not vote at all just to stick it to Biden?

[-] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I honestly don't get the hate against Biden.

I hate on Biden, even though I believe he is a good president overall. My hate stems for the very obvious (maybe petty) reason:

He is the wrong direction. The way to beat fascism is by being bold, progressive and forward thinking. Biden is basically the “let’s play it safe” candidate. All well and good, but clearly he did not reduce the appetite for fascism.

And yes, I think Bernie would have.

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[-] Narauko@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

Prior to being the VP and now President, he had a long political career as an establishment corporate Democrat. His home state is where almost all US usury is headquartered, and he consistently sold out the American people to those corporations. He sponsored the bill removing bankruptcy options from student loans, sided with the banks and credit card companies on interest rates and fees, was a war hawk, and was more than "it was just how it was at the time" racist.

Essentially every bit of the "whole lot of good" has been an 11th hour change of heart and fixing problems he was more than complicit in creating. Add to that the DNC manipulation to block other candidates, and you have the South Park special of a Douche vs. a Turd Sandwich.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

You like "usury" don't ya. The word. I noticed you used it a couple of times already.

Usury. Has some weight to it, doesn't it. Some heft. It's got . . . connotations.

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[-] greywolf0x1@lemmy.ml -1 points 6 months ago

i honestly don't get the hate against drumpf, isn't the us a fascist state already?

[-] Aeri@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

Winners keep score!

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[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

But Biden ended up building the border wall? Also pushing loan forgiveness is neutralized by the fact that he restarted loan payments.

I can list dozens of other trump-era bullshit Biden maintained, but it's tiring.

I feel like I've been having this same conversation for a decade, after watching Obama demotivate the base by maintaining/expanding Bush's policies, while republicans and democrats insist that he actually implemented socialism.

[-] EmptySlime@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 6 months ago

To my knowledge the only sections of wall he's built were funded by Trump's Congress before he left office. Meaning he had little choice but to spend the money on what Congress appropriated it for.

I don't know about you, but I'd rather not live in a world where someone like Trump can just decide he doesn't want to spend portions of the money Congress appropriated. He could just suddenly decide that the federal government isn't going to pay like Medicaid or SNAP.

[-] HubertManne@kbin.social 0 points 6 months ago

this is basically what he tried to do with money for ukraine. refusing to give it till he got tit for tat. Its funny that alciholicorn is continuing the exact crazy type of arguments that the screenshot highlights.

[-] bigboig@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 6 months ago

A .ml user arguing exactly like a conservative? Go figure 🤔

[-] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 months ago

The funny thing is that while Trump got constant media attention for personally saying and doing a lot of inappropriate things that past Republican presidents wouldn't have, he was actually a fairly normal Republican president in terms of the federal government's major policies during his term. I suppose he wasn't actually very interested in the unglamorous business of government and left it to other, less unconventional members of his party.

[-] Tyfud@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

This isn't true in the slightest. Trump absolutely destroyed federal government policies. What presidency were you watching? Bush didn't do anything even close to this much damage to the federal government. Not since Reagan. And that's honestly being generous to Reagan, because he did a lot of federal government damage.

[-] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works -1 points 6 months ago

Do you have any specific Trump-era changes in mind?

[-] PrettyLights@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

he constantly flirted with WW3

How?

If we were flirting with ww3 before, what would you say the current president is doing today?

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[-] PrettyLights@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

Neat list, when I turn on the news now I hear about lots of civilians being bombed and starved, and targets being attacked within Iranian borders.

If you think we were closer to ww3 before in the last presidency you're full on TDS.

Trump sucked but pretending we were closer to ww3 before is delusional.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago

Pfft. Come on, Ivan.

[-] uienia@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago

what would you say the current president is doing today?

The opposite.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

i know you hate to hear this but its all symbolic cherrypicked stuff.

did he stop the concentration camps for mexicans at the border? or the genocide in gaza? did he rollback anything that matters?

democrats always pretend to be doing shit since i remember, but don't actually get anything done at all. then republicans inevitably come and push the country further into fascism, rinse repeat.

[-] Xanis@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

Nah. Vote for Biden. Then carry that momentum to enact change.

Not sure why so many of you folks just scream "AH, BOTH BAD. NO VOTE." and run away babbling into the distance.

There is that legitimate third choice where we continue to push after the election. Biden has shown he will listen. Seems like a plan.

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[-] icedcoffee@lemm.ee 0 points 6 months ago

I mean sure it looks good I guess but I’m not holding my breath that the White House office of gun violence prevention is going to stop mass shootings.

All this stuff is designed to sound good on paper but then what’s the real impact?

[-] pythonoob@programming.dev 0 points 6 months ago

Yeah, what could canceling 144 billion Dollars in student loan debt do?

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[-] Xanis@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago

Question:

Has not having that office done any good?

[-] letsgo@lemm.ee -1 points 6 months ago

Yes OK, but apart from all that, what has Biden ever done?

[-] PutangInaMo@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

He mAdE tHe pRiCe oF cHeeSe Go uP!

[-] letsgo@lemm.ee -1 points 6 months ago

That's why the cheesemakers are blessed, so that they'll increase production which will result in lower cheese prices across the board.

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[-] Crampon@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Ok. So orange man is a fucking maniac.

But rejoining the Paris agreement is just dumb without intention or interest of fulfilling it. So many countries have signed it just for show. Leaving it and calling it bullshit virtue signalling is actually better.

Look at the statistics for the countries. It's not doing anything than green washing.

The other points is probably true and great. But the Paris agreement is pure trash.

  • Damn. I was mistaken. Guess promises will solve the climate crisis. Not action.
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