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Twice a week a pilot aborts a takeoff because other jets are entering an active runway. The FAA's solution is a 10 hour break between shifts rather than 9 hours.

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[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

ATC needs a huge fucking raise. They need better working conditions, and the FAA fucking FAILING at their job of make air travel safer. Starting from just the way ATC is seriously understaffed and overworked.

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How long are their shifts? Maybe a ten hour break between shifts AND more rest during the shift. Rotation is as important as rest between working periods.

[–] Lavitz@lemmings.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It seems to me that they don't have the employees on hand to handle the traffic. If 2 planes are sharing a runway that means a pilot is either aborting a takeoff or a landing. The article doesn't do a great job of relaying that the pilots are the ones aborting, the controller cleared 2 planes for the same runway. They do this twice a week on average across the US. We are talking about hundreds of people's lives. While rest is important I'm not sure it's the answer to this problem.

10 hour shifts max to answer your questions.

[–] Melody@lemmy.one 10 points 2 years ago

ATCs should be hard restricted to 8 hour shift maximums, with a hard enforced 16 hours off. No 'if's, 'and's, or 'but's, about it. They get 8 hours of work and 16 hours of rest.

Airlines and Airport Operators alike should be required to pitch in to find and secure these professionals' stable jobs, shifts and ensure their function is at it's peak.

ATC is no joke. If you aren't clear headed and alert; you will make mistakes and that can end in tragedy. Regulations must be in place to prevent these folks from getting overworked to the point they become dangerously fatigued; much like we do with Commercial Drivers.

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago

breaks for rest! what nexts. breaks for meals!

[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Going from 9 to 10 hours? No need to worry about that modafinil industrial complex yet, boys!

[–] VubDapple@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Doubtful that this would work. A better solution would involve having take-offs be more widely spaced in time

[–] Lavitz@lemmings.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It won't work because they're obviously dealing with a labor shortage. There's not enough man power to control the traffic. I don't think a couple minutes here or there will solve the problem either. Perhaps putting a cap on how many flights an airport can manage based on the number of working controllers?

[–] Melody@lemmy.one 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That wouldn't please the airlines but yeah; flights should halt if there's no ATC who is legally available.

[–] Lavitz@lemmings.world 2 points 2 years ago

Please the airlines? The only people who should be concerned about pleasing the airline's are the employees. You paid for a service and when you paid you were led to believe you would land safely at your destination. The only feelings you should take into consideration are those of the customers. Corporations don't exist to feel, they exist to extract resources which is what they are doing at the cost of everyone's safety.