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Should we post here or reddit? (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

submitted 7 months ago by gemew26@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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I thought r/piracy was dead but I see is very active, I don't know if mods changed or something though. Where do you guys think is best to ask questions?

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[-] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 60 points 7 months ago

r/piracy is mainly active with 3 things

Memes
Random questions
Drama

I, personally, never ask questions on that subreddit. Only viewing for random entertainment or boredness.

Both Piracy and PiratedGames subreddit are the 3 above. If you ask a particular question, you’ll often get randomly ridiculed (for nothing).

I’d just say - post it here and if that really doesn’t work out then try it there. Though out of personal experience this community on here is much (much) more friendly, willing to help and actually get to the point.

This community also had actual discussions and not random shit throwing in the community.

[-] FeelThePower@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 7 months ago

wow, I was kind of expecting this to be an exaggeration but you are right. I just checked over there and it's just memes, news articles, and arguing.

[-] Penguincoder@beehaw.org 7 points 7 months ago

Always has been...

[-] tudoapampa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 7 months ago

There is a workaround in search: -flair:humor Get rid of all these meme posts

[-] tobogganablaze@lemmus.org 57 points 7 months ago

Fuck reddit.

[-] Bezier@suppo.fi 23 points 7 months ago

Are lemmy and reddit mutually exclusive? Try whichever you prefer first, and then the other one, if it doesn't work.

I will not go back there, but I'm also not gonna get all judgemental on you if you do.

[-] StrawberryPigtails@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 7 months ago

I’m inclined to say screw Reddit. Lemmy may be less private overall but at least we have more control over things in the Fedi.

[-] anzo@programming.dev 10 points 7 months ago

How is it "less" private? Because the API isn't a paywall, sure. But... I don't know what's your perspective, really.

[-] lemann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 7 months ago

Probably along the lines of federated user activity, so things like upvotes/downvotes etc and subscriptions to a community being federated to the relevant server(s)

So even if you're lurking just voting on content, someone could setup a lemmy server, sub to a bunch of communities, and theoretically look at incoming activitypub updates from those communities for your activity I think

[-] anzo@programming.dev 4 points 7 months ago

Assuming that is really an issue (depends on who you are, what you're doing, and the motivation of the actor mounting such spying infrastructure), how is it any different on Reddit? First, being closed source and everything, we can't rule out that easier and large scale logging isn't already implemented. Secondly, such actor would probably just pay the API and scrape the same data if not with more details. It would also get extra metadata from brokers, etc.

Ultimately, if you want privacy, I agree that federation is undesired. That's why there are Lemmy instances that block all other instances by default. AFAIK those were from right extremists and pesos, at least judging by the name of their URLs.

[-] TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago

The difference here is that on Reddit, only 1 party has access to your info. On Lemmy, it's any party who has an instance that federates with yours.

[-] anzo@programming.dev 2 points 7 months ago

Well, on Reddit any party can pay the API prices that are needed to scrape data. So, the paywall. I guess it's some measure... But if you are being tracked by such an actor, your threat model can't really include reddit... It's defeating the purpose. All this is discussion on air.

[-] TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

Reddit doesn't provide nearly the same level of granular data that Lemmy does via the API or any publicly available channels. While we can't verify whether stuff like upvote data is sent or sold to data brokers, we do know that Lemmy, by design, gives it to literally anyone who wants it.

[-] Ringmasterincestuous@aussie.zone 1 points 7 months ago

On one hand everyone can access it, on the other, 1 party can sell it.

[-] Bezier@suppo.fi 2 points 7 months ago

I don't think it sends info about subscriptions and voter identities to other servers, or am I wrong?

[-] key@lemmy.keychat.org 6 points 7 months ago

You up voted "how did "step" porn become so popular when we did such a good job keeping scat and insest porn out of the mainstream for so long" and "I didn't forget your birthday either."

And down voted "seamless seeking"

I can say you're not subscribed to the like two communities on my instance. Subscription (follows) mostly only go to the instance hosting the community in question. Voting goes everywhere though.

[-] Bezier@suppo.fi 2 points 7 months ago

I tried to look more into this and I guess that everything goes out identifiable in some way.

And down voted "seamless seeking"

I looked up what that post is, and it ain't downvoted. Might have accidentally hit it, and then un-disliked, without that getting federated.

[-] anzo@programming.dev 3 points 7 months ago

Oh yes, that's an issue with Lemmy. Edits don't get federated, they stay on the instance. I didn't knew but it makes sense that it's the same with votes.

I believe the issue is that to keep every updated you'd need a far more complex system, like streaming the changes or CRDTs.

[-] Bezier@suppo.fi 1 points 7 months ago

Nice

[-] StrawberryPigtails@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 7 months ago

The others in this comment thread have covered the potential threat vector fairly thoroughly. It’s not something I’m particularly worried about at the moment, but it is something that I try to keep awareness of for the future.

[-] ahriboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 7 months ago

Here, and FUCK SPEZ. Reddit and Xitter will go like Digg.

[-] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 14 points 7 months ago

Rhetorical question, right?

[-] eleitl@lemmy.ml 12 points 7 months ago

What's a reddit?

[-] monstoor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 7 months ago

Here.

[-] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 11 points 7 months ago

Here. I can't speak for others, but I don't regularly visit Reddit anymore. My client has been done, so from my phone it never happens anymore. On PC I'm only using it when I want to read something there from a search result or by a link, and even then I'm using it through libreddit, which is annoying because reddit often rate limits the public instances.

[-] lemann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 7 months ago

Questions over there might get removed IMO, last time I checked out of curiosity it was full of memes and very little discussion. Could be different now 🤷‍♂️ but personally i'm staying on Lemmy

[-] sleepybisexual@beehaw.org 10 points 7 months ago

Here, spez can suck a dick

[-] MyNamesNotRobert@lemmynsfw.com 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Fuck reddit. I always read through the posts on here, I just don't comment if I have nothing to add.

[-] win95@lemmy.zip 9 points 7 months ago

Here.

[-] eardon@lemmy.ca 9 points 7 months ago

Here.

Reddit, and any centralization, is intrinsically dangerous to piracy.

[-] spiderman@ani.social 4 points 7 months ago

whatever is your preference. if you want your post to reach more people reddit might be your answer. if you just hate the way reddit is but you are okay with decent (or zero) interactions sometimes, lemmy can be your alternative.