I'm carefully optimistic. A new "battery tech breakthrough" is reported on every few months without anything coming out of it, but solid state batteries has been talked about for a while and might be the one to actually take over for LiPo (in some circumstances, at least). The tech looks promising, and I'm looking forward to seeing how this technology matures.

[–] cogman@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is more than a "breakthrough" IMO. Manufacturers have been eyeing and researching solid states for a long time now. It's not just a lab toy.

[–] Kushan@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

And according to the article, some of these are going on sale later this year.

[–] Kuvwert@lemm.ee 36 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Oh another huge groundbreaking battery technology that will very soon change the world!!!!!

Let me just log that with the 8436 times I've read that in the last 2 decades.

[–] xkforce@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Over the last two decades battery technology has increased DRASTICALLY. So the cynicism isnt entirely deserved.

[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It has; but afaik it has been more through incremental improvements rather than huge technological leaps.

[–] xkforce@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not exactly. Those technological leaps are spread throughout. It just looks like its entirely incremental even though its not really. It takes time to develop things and along the way the existing tech is refined.

[–] Zorque@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Just because the increments aren't in a straight line doesn't mean they're not still incremental.

[–] Kuvwert@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I know battery tech is progressing and lithium ion is way advanced, but every month I see a bait article claiming they are revolutionizing the tech and this new technology will DOUBLE or TRIPLE the liion battery... Especially the solid state battery articles. It's always bait

[–] xkforce@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

It takes time to develop things. And solid state batteries like this really are promising.

[–] bbuez@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If I had a nickel for every groundbreaking battery technology discovered, I could make my own groundbreaking discovery! Just trust me this time

[–] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

You'd certainly have an adequate supply of nickel for the required metallurgy...

[–] dezmd@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Still waiting on those miracle molten salt batteries that are going to revolutionize long term energy storage.

[–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Some of those were dangerous as hell and we won't see them in consumer use ever, unless somebody wants a very expensive frag grenade.

[–] CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago

Don't trust reports, or anything really, coming out of China at face value. Product in hand, undoctored video proof, lab tests done by a trusted group.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

A solid-state battery developer in China has unveiled a new cell that could help change the game for electric mobility.

Oh yeah? Again?

Tailan did not mention any specific plans for passenger vehicle integration yet, but did state its latest generation of all-solid-state battery cells are vehicle grade. If the company is able to scale this technology large enough for consumer vehicles while keeping prices down...

Ah, so more vaporware. Same as usual. Come find me when these technologies actually exist.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We'll do fine with 250-300 mile range if charging infrastructure is improved. Use further battery breakthroughs for reducing weight, not increasing range.

Though the possibility of fully electric airplanes is exciting.

[–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Increased capacity is reduced weight since now you need less battery for came range. Although I doubt these claims. Improvements in technology are usually marginal, not 5x or more.

[–] LimpRimble@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

If the company is able to scale this technology large enough for consumer vehicles while keeping prices down ...

[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

They probably won't care about keeping costs down if they are developing 1300 miles range batteries that's gonna be for industrial and military applications. Maybe some very high end consumer use.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Alternatively, they could make smaller versions for consumer vehicles that take up less space/weight.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, this kind of headline is stupid. Any battery can offer any given range if it's large enough. This kind of thing should be written as distance/mass or, for consumer products, cost/distance.

[–] nBodyProblem@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Even that is meaningless because the vehicle you put a battery in is as important or moreso than the battery.

Aptera has a claimed 1,000+ mile range with a 100 kWh lithium battery. Meanwhile, the Rivian R1S has a claimed 270 mile range when equipped with a 106 kWh battery.

The main difference is that the Aptera is a light and aerodynamic car built for maximum efficiency instead of a 6,000 lb pickup truck. Any battery can boast amazing numbers if you are flexible enough with the use case.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago

That's true. I guess it should just be kWh/mass. Either that or we should have a standard vehicle all batteries are tested on for headlines if they want to talk about distance, which is obviously more understandable to the average reader.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

It will start like that, but this tech will become more and more affordable as time goes on.

[–] set_secret@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

just 3 to 5 years guys....

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If the company is able to scale this technology large enough for consumer vehicles[…]

Big ask

[–] SharkAttak@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

Why? Just fill the trunk with 18650 cells and off you go.

[–] tigerjerusalem@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

This will be a great pair to my quantum graphene notebook!

[–] Dreizehn@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Made in PRC, I'll pass.