DuckDuckAssitant is back! : privacy

[–] barbara@lemmy.ml 64 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Beware that it just forwards your queries to openai

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[–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

FYI: You don't have to choose OpenAI. You can also choose Claude 2.1. Its corpus is more ethically sourced & it's more private with user data, but in return it is naturally less feature-complete. Still pretty awesome though!

[+] LWD@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

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[–] rollingflower@lemmy.kde.social 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Turbo misinformation

[–] venoft@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

That's super wrong. Typical ai hallucination since it's not in training data (Claude is quite new).

[–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

ChatGPT is incorrect. I asked Claude about it and this is what it has to say.

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tl;dr

Claude's end response:

when I said earlier that "Claude acts as a privacy layer provided by DuckDuckGo", that was an incorrect statement. To clarify:

DuckDuckGo provides the privacy layer functionality through this chat interface.

I am Claude, an AI model created by Anthropic to converse.

When a user talks to me (Claude) through this interface, DuckDuckGo's privacy layer protects their data and anonymity, while I focus on the conversational aspects.

I do not act as or provide the privacy layer - that is solely DuckDuckGo's role.

Thank you for catching my mistaken statement earlier. To summarize correctly:

DuckDuckGo enables the privacy layer protections. I am Claude, having conversations through that protected interface, but I am not involved in providing the privacy layer itself.

I appreciate you taking the time to ensure I understand this properly. Please let me know if any part of the explanation remains unclear!

[–] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That thing needs to summerize it's own shit.

[–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 years ago

I fucking AGREE.

[–] apotheotic@beehaw.org 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Um, how about no? Love DDG but good lord are we just supposed to take openai's word for this privacy? Lol

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago

Yes, it's a stretch, but think about it. If they is a proxy, then it isn't worse than using piped or invidious too search and listen for music or such.

[–] CapitanStrider@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 years ago

No thanks

[–] rollingflower@lemmy.kde.social 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Damn they have ClaudeAI! Its way better than GPT

[–] madd0ck@feddit.de 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, they are using the old Claude 1.2 instant model instead of the newer Claude 3 Haiku

[–] rollingflower@lemmy.kde.social 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I also couldnt find their website at all, how do you access that chat?

Edit: tab on the search results page

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Ok I guess

[+] Ilandar@aussie.zone 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

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[–] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

Meh. I'll stick with local llama and firejailed lmstudio.

[–] oldfart@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What is the link? It doesn't appear on main ddg page for me

[–] rollingflower@lemmy.kde.social 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=nothing&t=fpas&ia=chat#

[–] oldfart@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Thank you! I've used anonchatgpt before but this is better, no captcha and two models to choose from

[–] rollingflower@lemmy.kde.social 1 points 2 years ago

Its strange that you need to search something first to access it. And the Claude model is really outdated. The new claude model is better than ChatGPT4 but the old one isnt.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 5 points 2 years ago

It's funny how fads have moved on from fashion and toys and onto the internet

[–] Gargari@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They really think their target audience will like it?

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago

Well, I mostly haven't used the existing tools because I did not trust the service providers with my privacy, and also I do not think these are such an all important tools.

However this is a proxy, basically. Isn't it?
So if we are fine using youtube through (video proxying instances of) Invidious and Piped, then this should be fine too (if you don't input private info of yours or others, that is)

[+] Freuks@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

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[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'll just use Jan locally on my machine and Microsoft Copilot for images.

[–] UntitledQuitting@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Which models do you run on jan? I often get very weird responses and/or never ending feedback loops.

That being said I still don’t have much use for text-based ai, it doesn’t really fill any gaps in my workflow

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Stealth 7B mostly

[+] ChallengeApathy@infosec.pub -9 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I'm happy to stick with Brave. Far superior to DDG in literally every way.

[–] off_brand_@beehaw.org 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Isn't brave owned by that weird crypto guy? And based on chrome?

[–] ChallengeApathy@infosec.pub 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah, and? It's one of the best options for privacy. I'm referring to their search engine though.

[–] Scary_le_Poo@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The irony of posting from infosec about how superior Brave is. Bruh moment.

[–] ChallengeApathy@infosec.pub 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm sorry that not everyone from my instance believes that Firefox is the only option 🙄

[–] Scary_le_Poo@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Dude, there is degoogled chromium, and various other blink engine choices, but touting brave as a "superior" option? Oof. Big oof.

On the gecko side of things, there are a ton of great choices as well. All of them are better in every single way than brave.

[–] ChallengeApathy@infosec.pub 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Because it objectively IS. It passes privacy tests in so many areas where others fail and I'm not just talking about those privacy test sites, I'm talking tests we can run ourselves. It's fine if you don't like Brave but don't let your emotions get in the way of the fact that it is, by default, the best option for privacy out of the box. Sure, you CAN harden Firefox or use Librewolf but even those don't always succeed in passing those tests like Brave does.

[–] Scary_le_Poo@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Bro. Be better.

"Objectively"

"Superior"

Your use of these words make me think that you don't understand what they mean. Go ahead, use brave all you want. Big oof.

[–] ChallengeApathy@infosec.pub 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It IS. It's a fact. You can run the tests yourself.

[–] Scary_le_Poo@beehaw.org -1 points 2 years ago

Smh.

[–] Firipu@startrek.website 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Why would I use brave (with its weird fucked up crypto links) over Vivaldi? If you're using chromium anyway, I don't get the brave love.

[–] ChallengeApathy@infosec.pub 1 points 2 years ago

Better privacy, better UI not cluttered by excessive and unnecessary options, and a fantastic feature set... but I'm referring to their search engine in this context.

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What has brave to do with this?

[–] ChallengeApathy@infosec.pub 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They have a search engine...

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As I understand the point was the AI tool of the org, not the search engine.

[–] ChallengeApathy@infosec.pub 1 points 2 years ago

The AI is intrinsically linked to the search engine if I'm not mistaken. Brave has AI built into their search engine and their browser, but it's very well done and pro-privacy.

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