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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Lemmywontallowme@lemmygrad.ml to c/comradeship@lemmygrad.ml

For example,

60 seconds = 1 minute

60 minutes = 1 hour

24 hours = 1 day

7 day = 1 week

29-31 days = Month (approx.)

365/366 days = year

It's like for the imperial measurement of distance, where 1 mile = 5280 feet...

Edit: just to clarify, I'm more or less keen towards any consistent, decimal-based measurement systems like base-10 or base-12.

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[-] wrath-sedan@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

TL;DR: mostly ancient math and moon stuff.

This article suggests 60/60 came from the Sumerians who used a base-12 counting system. This and other articles note that 60 is more flexible than 100 in many ways as it’s divisible by 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6.

The Babylonians invented the 360 degree circle, and so understood the sun to move about 1 degree per day.

The number of days in a week and weeks in a month is based on lunar phases (month=moon, and in Chinese the word for month is the same as moon, 月). This article says the approximately 28 day month is traced to ancient Mesopotamia with leap days used to stay consistent in the long run. As for days of the week that article also says they were based on the 7 non-fixed heavenly bodies visible to the naked eye.

[-] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Time measurements like heat, mass, length etc are arbitrary units. It is just that they are the oldest.

The Sumerians gave us our time standards and they loved base 12. So twelve hours in the day and 60 (5x12) minutes in the hour. Also 12 months in a year and 360 degrees in a circle.

The French actually tried to implement decimal time after the revolution but reverted back after 6 years or so.

[-] ComradeChairmanKGB@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Americans use the imperial system, yet claim not to be imperialist. Curious 🤔

[-] Franfran2424@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Well, the time for eath rotation isnt a constant, it will slowly decelerate and days will be longer.

Using multiples of 10 for time was considered, but was a shitty option compared to the current deal. Months should all be 30 days and then have a free week at the end of the year tho, egyptian style.

Parties during that week would be unreal

[-] Franfran2424@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

they were, in ancient egypt. They were supposed to be dangerous days, because religion wanted to keep control of the people on the days they werent tied to the regular schedule, by scaring them.

[-] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 0 points 1 year ago

And when you are studying financial mathematics, there 30 days months all around, or not actually each day is counted, or wait it's only work days. For the year you can have 360 days at year, or 365 or sometimes 366. And you need to remember all that shit for tbe exams and never use it again because is the problem for the programmers to solve.

[-] grammus@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

And there are some calendars (the old UK electricity EFA calendar for example https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity_Forward_Agreement) that have months which are 4, 5 and sometimes 6 weeks (445445445445/6). An absolute nightmare.

[-] Munrock@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago

12 hours in half a day is fine for me. 12 can be divided into halves, thirds, quarters and sixths. That's useful for planning out a day. Time is one of the applications where I don't have a complaint about using base 12.

[-] Franfran2424@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Exactly why there are 12 months and 24h a day, for easy divisions.

[-] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago

I think the 12 months thing is more due to the cycle of the moon being about 12 per year right?

[-] Franfran2424@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, 12.4 moon cycles a year.

[-] Lemmywontallowme@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago

The real confusion is when you count the days in a month, or year...

[-] Kolrami@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I've heard of a suggestion of using 13 months of 4 weeks each.

It adds up to 364 days.

The remainder day is a new type of annual leap day and you get the additional normal one every 4 years.

[-] freagle@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 1 year ago

One can reach twelve joints on a 4-fingered hand with the thumb. That's the basis of the base-12 counting system.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 1 year ago

Writing this in 634.023.M3 Imperial Calendar i agree we should change it to juche

[-] Lemmywontallowme@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago

What is juche time though?

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 1 year ago

Calendar used in DPRK, basically normal gregorian but the dates are counted from 1912 as Juche era, in a combination of european system and partially Korean system.

Today date is: 19.08 Juche 112

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