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Are gun designs open source? (lemmy.world)

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[-] muhyb@programming.dev 275 points 3 months ago

From GNU/Linux to GUN/Linux

[-] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 87 points 3 months ago

Open-source?

More like open fire!

[-] Goun@lemmy.ml 50 points 3 months ago

GNU/GUN

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[-] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 203 points 3 months ago

And here my friends, we can see an exhibit from the United States of America.

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[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 193 points 3 months ago

freedom is where you might get shot walking your dog.

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[-] HappyRedditRefugee@lemm.ee 146 points 3 months ago

Tho I support gun ownership, this guy has no business owning a gun

"If you are a [in my perception] a communist, you don't wanna step on my lawn" === "If I don't agree with you, I'll shoot you"

Plus anyone saying "communist states" is definetly fallen victim of right wing propaganda and haven't even take the time to research what communisim is. Even the US left political wing is quite capitalisitic.

Just a bunch of bad "arguments" bagged up with slapsticks words which he doesn't even know the meaning of.

[-] dumpsterlid@lemmy.world 83 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I watched this guy for a little bit and liked his Linux stuff and then in one video he started ranting about how those FOSS licenses that include a requirement to use software ethically are the worst thing in the universe because they bring politics into software and I thought “wait, this guy is ignorant asshole isn’t he?” and turns out yes, yes he is.

Not making the point to defend those licenses or not but all this guy cared about was FOSS not being political and it’s like…are you a child? Do you not understand how all of this is political?

People like this guy give FOSS a really ugly outward facing identity and it turns away soooo many potential contributors and chill people.

To your point about this guy being exactly the kind of person that shouldn’t be allowed to own a precision semiautomatic rifle with 30 round magazines of high caliber rifle rounds, I agree, I have seen that guy get so fucking angry about shit on his channel, he has no ability to control his anger and that kind of person shouldn’t be allowed to own an object that gives their temper tantrums the capacity to kill so many people so quickly before their rational control kicks back in.

[-] HappyRedditRefugee@lemm.ee 52 points 3 months ago

"I don't wanna get political in this video"

Get's mega political and starts using political lingo used by the right wing

Way to go, dude, you played yourself.

I've also seen his temper in his videos plus adding what he said in this video, I am convinced the guy should not be allowed to own a damm BBGun. But he's lucky he doesnt live in a "communist state". Yo what a shitshow.

[-] dumpsterlid@lemmy.world 31 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I’ve also seen his temper in his videos plus adding what he said in this video, I am convinced the guy should not be allowed to own a damm BBGun. But he’s lucky he doesnt live in a “communist state”. Yo what a shitshow.

You can see with these conservative white men when they clearly perceive a threatening universe everywhere they look based on their ideology. It is what directly leads to their irrational bouts of anger and violence, and causes things like....

"A 14-year-old African-American boy stopped to ask for directions to school in a Detroit suburb but was shot at instead, according to prosecutors.....I got to the house and I knocked on the lady's door. Then she started yelling at me and she was like, 'Why are you trying to break into my house?' " Walker told local station WJBK. "And I was trying to explain to her that I was trying to get directions to Rochester High. And she kept yelling at me. The guy came downstairs, and then he grabbed the gun, and I saw it and started to run. And that's when I heard the gunshot," he told the station.

the same old story over and over again

Rightwing white men afraid of the world and thus ready to project anger and violence at the slightest confirmation of whatever dumb bullshit they believe in isn't a cute look for any community, which is probably why these people tend to feel so isolated in the first place...

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[-] half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago

I had an interaction a few weeks ago where I made the same obvious statement -- that everything is political, like the price of milk is political -- and the someone said I was making it political, like gun rights.

That conversation stopped there unfortunately, but it made me realize something.

Politicized is different from political for a lot of people.

Maybe most people realize the price of gas is political, but they don't think that their internet bill, or whatever, is political. It's just market forces to them, or whatever they assume about capitalism being good.

Ultimately, I think my point is that when people say things like foss shouldn't be political, I think they're saying they agree, but they would lose their in-group status be agreeing with something "woke" like ethics in software. So they have to make a proxy argument about what is and isn't political.

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[-] Shareni@programming.dev 23 points 3 months ago

Meanwhile FOSS directly attacks multiple capitalist statements about communism

[-] HappyRedditRefugee@lemm.ee 35 points 3 months ago

Open software is considered by many a modern example of a anachists-communist project.

The dude is just spewing what he belives to be truth without any regard for the concepts he is actually talking about. Even me supporting both FOSS and gun ownership I belive the whole video should be regard as misinformation/misrepresentation at the very least, propaganda in reality.

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[-] PlexSheep@feddit.de 109 points 3 months ago

US-americans got the crazy

[-] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 103 points 3 months ago

I want to share software and ideas, not bullets and death. Hard pass.

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[-] seathru@lemmy.sdf.org 78 points 3 months ago

A lot of the 3d printed designs are.

[-] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 3 months ago

If you wanna get really crazy, last I heard was that people were working on 3d printed 9mm ammo.

So not only are the guns FOSS, but the bullets are too.

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[-] Zehzin@lemmy.world 65 points 3 months ago

Guns don't kill people, I kill people when I read EULAs

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[-] varnia@lemm.ee 64 points 3 months ago

I knew something was off, I never really could watch his channel for some reason. This is one more hint that my intuition wasn't wrong.

[-] Pantherina@feddit.de 32 points 3 months ago

This. Old dude ranting all the time, refusing change, being kinda self entitled and with veeeery MURICA vibes.

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[-] savvywolf@pawb.social 54 points 3 months ago

Remember: Always replace EagleOS on your SmartGun with Linux to avoid the NRA's telemetry.

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[-] Damage@feddit.it 51 points 3 months ago

The definitive solution to GPL non-compliance

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[-] Arbiter@lemmy.world 51 points 3 months ago

To be fair, enough guns can make any project open source.

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[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 48 points 3 months ago

Bahaha

Yes, because the free use of software conflates with wanting everyone (including the lunatics) armed with deadly weapons running around the places you try to live.

These Muricans really have such ignorant view on the world. I doubt they have ever left their hometown, let alone visited actual developed nations with real gun laws.

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[-] taanegl@lemmy.world 44 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You do know there are left wing people out there who own guns and go to the range, right? Because when them nationalists show up in their leather boots, knocking on doors, they won't give a damn if you're a pacificist. They gonna go pop-pop-pop.

Learn from the black panthers. If proliferation of guns is the standard, abstaining will only make you - and your children - a juicier target.

But, even if you're anti-guns, there's one more thing.

One talking point you could use with pro-gun people though, even if you're anti-gun...

"So let me get this straight... you're against the government taking away your guns, but for the government taking away your encryption?"

Say it with me now:

THE RIGHT TO ENCRYPT SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED

[-] blazera@lemmy.world 28 points 3 months ago

US is a great example that guns dont stop guns. they just turn escalations into dice rolls for who gets to die

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[-] Kostyeah@lemmy.ca 43 points 3 months ago

I dont think I'm American enough to understand this. How does wanting people to have freedom to use their systems as they please correlate with everyone being able to own and freely carry weapons that can kill instantly?

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[-] unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone 36 points 3 months ago

Never really liked his channel but wasn't aware of this video until now. What a fuckwit. Has no idea what communism is but keeps saying it when he really means authoritarianism. Says that a gun is "great for children", I'm hoping he meant for children to use...

I don't understand why I need to buy a gun to deal with downstream problems where there is an upstream solution. The reasons he gave for owning any gun are really societal issues. Instead of encouraging everyone to have a private army, why not encourage people to vote for politicians who will fix the upstream problems

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[-] merthyr1831@lemmy.world 35 points 3 months ago

There are actually a few open source gun designs, namely designed to circumvent gun control measures by being built from off the shelf parts with limited machining.

The one I've seen most of is the FGC-9 that's being used by rebels in Myanmar to be used in raids against government troops, after which they can be replaced with scavenged conventional small arms.

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[-] Swarfega@lemm.ee 30 points 3 months ago

I read the title before looking at the guy and he looks exactly like the sort of person who would write that title

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 28 points 3 months ago

I also use my software to regularly murder the crap out of hundreds of people.

Oh, wait, that is grand theft auto and battlefield, and neither are open source, what have I done?

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[-] vojel@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 3 months ago

What the fuck, how this can even be not a meme…

[-] sudneo@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago

I went to look for the video and somehow was worse than I had imagined.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 3 months ago

My software can kill you and is exploitable by maniacs, so I don't see why this is getting ridiculed. /s

[-] hperrin@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Man, Distrotube is such a fuckin wacko.

[-] ogmios@sh.itjust.works 19 points 3 months ago

They actually are open source, and there is indeed a lot of material out there to help people with everything they need to build their own. The only part that is illegal to make on your own is the part with a serial number on it, for tracking purposes.

[-] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 43 points 3 months ago

I feel the legality aspect is highly dependent on one’s location.

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[-] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 35 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The only part that is illegal to make on your own is the part with a serial number on it, for tracking purposes.

Perhaps that is the case elsewhere, but to point out that in the US, it is legal on the Federal level to make your own complete firearm for personal use. Assuming no state specific laws prohibit it, it is by default legal. ATF FAQ page. If you are not an FFL holder, and are not going to sell the firearm it does not need any serial number. All NFA restrictions still apply to homemade firearms.

The practice of legally homemaking firearms pre-dates 3D printing, with 80% AR-15 lowers being a modern and widespread example.

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[-] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 19 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I support free software, but that doesn't mean dangerous offensive software shouldn't be regulated...

A currently viable virus should not be able to distributed freely without any regulation, even when it is licensed under GPL; the fact that viruses can be used for defensive purposes (hacking a hacker's laptop to get ransomware pass code, or hacking scammers to warn victims etc.) also won't change that.

It is the same way with lethal poison, just because it can be used in defensive ways, doesn't mean it should not be controlled.

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