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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/main@lemmy.blahaj.zone

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Edit - Hexbear announced plans to deferedate from us.

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~~After recent events, it feels to me that sentiment has shifted and more people are asking for defederation of hexbear than previously~~

~~I've been doing my best to try and mend bridges and keep us connected, as it's my hope that we can maintain trans solidarity and work with them, despite the friction, however, ultimately, I feel that this is an issue for the blahaj lemmy community to decide, not the admins alone~~

~~So here's what we're going to do~~

~~We're going to leave things as they are for a week. That will give time for things to calm down whilst we see if we can work together. After a week, I'll put up a vote and get a feel for where the community is at in regards to our continued federation with hexbear. That poll will run for a week. If there is a strong will to defederate (a clear majority), then that's what we will do~~

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Fuckin' ludicrous. Absolutely fuckin' ridiculous. Where was this restraint with lemmynsfw? Where was the "wait and mull things over" there? Why shoot from the hip in one instance and hold fire on the other one? Goddamn, the hypocrisy is palpable.

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[-] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 year ago

I would like to highlight this quote from the admin lemm.ee from their similar discussion on hexbear:

Let me play the devil’s advocate here and employ some “self-whataboutism”: among all users that have been banned on lemm.ee for bigotry, the majority were actually not users from other instances, and in fact people with lemm.ee accounts. If we judge any larger instance only by bigoted posts that some of its users make, then we might as well declare all instances as cesspools and close down Lemmy completely. I believe it’s far more useful to judge instances based on moderation in response to such content. Just as we remove bigoted content from lemm.ee, I have also witnessed bigoted content being removed from hexbear.

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[-] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've seen their "fite me bro" style comments and a bit of sussy posts, but I'm otherwise unfamiliar with the deep lore. I agree with Ada's proposed solution and perhaps in a week their community will have made changes to this behavior.

After spending some time in their threads, hexbear seems pretty drama-pilled. I think saying we can individually block them is cope, they will just bother anybody who doesn't know about this drama and to block them until the end of time.

Their newsposting and news takes are really good, though.

[-] audiomodder@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 year ago
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[-] vinceman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 year ago

At this point I don't think we should defederate.

[-] moonsnotreal@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 year ago

This whole thing was a shitshow and I regret that any of it happened. I did add fuel to the fire in the first discussion thread and I wish I didn't. I hope that something like this never happens again. We were definitely not innocent in this drama. It was sort of necessary that either instance defederates as I could see the infighting going on indefinitely. Hopefully Ada can take a well deserved break now.

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