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Shout out to the oil, meat, and shipping industries (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 year ago by UhBell@lemmy.world to c/memes@lemmy.ml

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[-] ClickToDisplay@lemmy.world 210 points 1 year ago

Slight inaccuracy, the data only goes back to 1979 and has not yet been verified by NOAA which has data going back to 1880.

It’s also worth noting that this is based on the Climate Reanalyzer which is intended for forecasting temperatures, not record keeping.

It would be more accurate to say it was the hottest day ever recorded by the Climate Reanalyzer.

Source: https://time.com/6292103/worlds-hottest-day-preliminary-record/

[-] bric@lemm.ee 86 points 1 year ago

This. It's also not accurate to say it's the warmest we've been in the past 10,000 years, it was likely warmer during the roman warm period, and potentially a couple of other points. So we can only really say it's the warmest we've seen in the last couple hundred years.

That's not to say this isn't concerning, we're on track to smash the roman warm periods average temperatures within our lifetimes and make the earth the hottest it's been since the paleoscene, which would have massive ramifications. But we're not there yet, the problem is that we will likely get there in the next few decades.

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 50 points 1 year ago

in the next few decades.

I appreciate your optimism.

[-] bric@lemm.ee 36 points 1 year ago

If you want some more optimism, we actually have slowed the rate of warming from what was predicted 20 years ago. The reality we are living in would have been considered an "optimistic prediction" at one point. We are still warming, things are still going in the wrong direction, but the changes that people have been making to mitigate global warming are making an impact. We might still be going over the cliff, but at least we're doing it with our brakes on instead of full speed ahead. So yes, I do think it will be decades before we truly break temperature records that have been seen by humans, maybe even several decades. That doesn't downplay the significance of the need to stop it though

[-] GitProphet@lemmy.sdf.org 26 points 1 year ago

From what I've heard about our current climate warming situation I'd downgrade the metaphor from using breaks to taking the foot off the pedal a bit.

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[-] pbkoden@midwest.social 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What about tipping points? I hear about ice cover, ocean currents, and other systems where once we get past a tipping point, additional warming is self sustaining. At that point it doesn't matter if we have our brakes on, we've gone over the cliff right?

[-] trafguy@midwest.social 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If we end up triggering a self-sustaining feedback loop, that's how I understand it, yeah. We still do have some very high risk strategies we could implement, like solar shielding to reduce total light reaching the earth, or bioengineering plants that suck up carbon super efficiently, but it's hard to say what the impacts of those would be

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[-] efiler@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

At least the "medieval warm period" which gets cited a lot, was a regional phenomenon and global temperatures are higher today. The Wikipedia page seems to suggest the same for the Roman warm period.

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[-] thisNotMyName@lemmy.world 161 points 1 year ago

Welcome to the coldest summer for the rest of your life :)

[-] Matt_Shatt@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

Why would you do that?

[-] moosh@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

😩

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[-] juansero29@lemmy.world 96 points 1 year ago

And just a week ago I was talking to these boomers that were explaining me how "we should all stop being so attached to climate fear" and that "everything will just sort itself out and we'll live just fine".

Yea, no shit boomer

[-] scottyjoe9@sh.itjust.works 76 points 1 year ago

They meant that they'll live just fine. You see, they will be dead before climate change decimates our planet. 🤷‍♂️

[-] bingbong@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 year ago

Looks less likely every year, they're running out of time quick

[-] BeeOneTwoThree@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago

It won't decimate the planet, but it will make the planet a lot less habitable for humans.

So yes depending on where they live they will be just fine, but a lot of people will die. Because of this there will be huge migrations and struggels with having enough resources...

[-] pchem@feddit.de 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

but it will make the planet a lot less habitable for humans.

And, unfortunately, for a wide range of other species.

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[-] Nilz@sopuli.xyz 23 points 1 year ago

Boomers: "We had hot days in the 60's and 70's as well and you didn't hear us complain"

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[-] newguy208@lemmy.world 74 points 1 year ago

So far.

[-] Wayren@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

So true it burns.

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[-] foggy@lemmy.world 71 points 1 year ago

Vermont just had flooding that was on par with Hurricane Irene.

They're calling it a 1000 year rarity. It happened 12 years ago. Only this time there was no hurricane.

There are ocean temperatures in the fucking 90s.

This hurricane season is gonna be batshit crazy, y'all.

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[-] ThoranTW@lemmy.world 63 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think, as individuals; we all need to pick up our game and do our part in polluting and destroying the planet more. We can't let the corporations do all the heavy lifting after all.

Edit: I don't think I came across properly here, given the replies. This was sarcasm saying we need to fuck up the planet more to keep pace with the rate the corporations do.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago

Yes. Our 12% will really make a difference vs corporations' 80%. And we can get to that 12% if so 8 billion of us work together. I'm doing my 0.0000001% part!

[-] exi@feddit.de 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You know corporations build shit people buy, right? It's not like they pollute for the fun of it. They pollute because we give them money to do it...

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[-] TheSaneWriter@lemm.ee 54 points 1 year ago

Thanks humanity, I'm sure that this will cause no long term issues and we can just keep using the same economic and political systems while not worrying about it at all.

[-] MedicPigBabySaver@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago

My fault. I like plastic straws in my scorpion bowls.

[-] TheSaneWriter@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

Damn, why'd you go and cause all of climate change? Not cool.

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[-] ahnesampo@sopuli.xyz 34 points 1 year ago

Shipping? Shipping is about 2 % of global CO~2~ emissions.

Large ships emit a lot of sulphur oxides (SO~x~). E.g. cruise ships emit more than all cars of Europe. SO~x~ is not a greenhouse gas, but it’s a nasty pollutant nonetheless.

[-] philm@programming.dev 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They emit a lot, but they transport ... a very lot. Trucks are higher emitters per comodity.

Still both should be powered by something else like hydrogen (more interesting for ships I guess) or batteries...

And cruise ships should be IMHO taxed so high (the tax should probably directly go to countermeasures), such that only very rich people are able to (not that I grant them the fun, but they should finance this climate disaster in every possible way...)

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[-] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 30 points 1 year ago

The oil, meat and shipping industries: "It's called a streak, baby"

[-] produnis@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 1 year ago

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[-] topinambour_rex@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

We can break this record, do like me, burn tires !

[-] kenbw2@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Wait, is this true?

[-] FrostBolt@kbin.social 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, it’s been in the news 😩 We broke the global average temperature record something like 3 times last week. The graph that accompanies the articles is actually quite scary

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/06/climate/climate-change-record-heat.html