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Biden abortion rally in Virginia interrupted by multiple protesters: ‘Genocide Joe’ (www.foxnews.com)

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[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Foxnews? C'mon man, at least give people a source that can't be impugned. :)

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5103727/genocide-joe-yelled-president-biden-campaign-event-virginia

"'Genocide Joe' Yelled at President Biden During Campaign Event in Virginia"

[-] Candelestine@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

There was no possible way we could make it through an election cycle without the right wing trolls popping out of the woodwork. Just wishful thinking.

They rather like being impugned, part of the whole anti-intellectual thing with Trumpism, where they thrive from being attacked and getting to play the rebel.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

It's going to get worse, it's only January... Wait until the Megapost for the Republican Convention. :)

[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago

TiL everyone opposed to genocide is republican

[-] Candelestine@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

No, just that repubs are perfectly happy to take any form of attack that comes to hand, and online, will gleefully pretend to be something they're not for the lulz.

[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago

pretend to be something they're not

Iike democrats pretending to be working for the marginalized?

[-] Candelestine@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

At least we try, instead of pushing to burn the whole system down, hurting everyone in proportion to their lack of power and leaving the system open for power to re-entrench without a system of checks and balances to prevent extremism.

This narrative of both sides being the same since they both feature some corruption is so tiring, when one very clearly tries where the other does not.

Some idealists like to argue for the guillotine, but seem to forget that the private jet and offshore bank account is an absolute hard counter to the guillotine.

[+] Nudding@lemmy.world -13 points 5 months ago

Good, he shouldn't be allowed a moment of free peace on that.

[-] aew360@lemm.ee 14 points 5 months ago

Go protest against Hamas and Netanyahu. They’re the only ones actually killing people. The U.S. stood by its allies. Hamas fucked around and found out. They wanted Netanyahu to overreact and level Gaza. What should the U.S. do? Hold an ally at gunpoint and say “don’t fight back”?

Biden’s administration is advocating for a two-state solution. A Trump administration would advocate for nothing for Palestine.

But sure, go ahead and enable Trump to make things worse. I honestly don’t know how you folks sleep at night. Ignorance must be one hell of a sedative.

[-] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 5 months ago

We should stop giving them money and weapons while they use that money and fire those weapons at ambulances and hospitals

What the fuck is wrong with you? "Stand by our allies?" I dont give a shit who your ally is, if they start slaughtering children and innocents they can get fucked, and they can certainly get their bloody, murderous hands out of our fucking wallet.

Funding genocide is an action that trumps any words. They can advocate whatever they like when they are spending my tax dollars on slaughter of humans, the words mean fuckall.

No seriously, what the actual fuck is wrong with you? Did your mother beat you with a mallet? Do you drink lead?

[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago

We don't give a fuck about what Trump might do. We are concerned what genocide Joe is actually doing. Biden has the ability to pull back their government welfare checks and refuse to provide weapons like Reagan did, but the self proclaimed Zionist has done neither. In fact boosting money and bypassing Congress 2 times to provide weapons.

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 7 points 5 months ago

Biden has the ability to pull back their government welfare checks and refuse to provide weapons like Reagan did...

What do you suppose this would accomplish?

[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Can't very well bomb anyone without bombs

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 4 points 5 months ago

Do you suppose they will have no bombs if the US stops giving them money?

[-] mattw3496@kbin.social 5 points 5 months ago

While your snarky comment is technically right, you seem to be intentionally ignoring this person's actual point.

Sure, they'll still genocide without the US' help. But that doesn't mean we should continue helping them?

Besides, having a country that tends to ally with Israel stop providing them weapons might actually make them consider their actions more. Doubtful, but still infinitely more useful than continuing to give aid.

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 2 points 5 months ago

Sure, they'll still genocide without the US' help. But that doesn't mean we should continue helping them? [sic]

Where did I say we should? I agree that we should stop providing them weapons.

But to pretend that the US (and by extension, Joe Biden) is somehow a cause of the continuation of the war is to knowingly inflate the US's role and engage in a fallacy of understated evidence. Netanyahu is fighting a holy war, and he'll sacrifice as many children and zealots upon that altar to maintain his grip on power.

That's the point. People need to stop talking and acting like it's Joe Biden's fault or that he has some intrinsic power to stop it, because that's factually incorrect.

[-] mattw3496@kbin.social 1 points 5 months ago

You asked what it would accomplish if the US stops giving Israel money (which I read as aid in general)

The accomplishment would that the US would no longer be giving money and weapons to a country committing genocide. I did not say that this would stop the genocide, I realize that Biden has no intrinsic ability to stop it. But we can absolutely blame him for contributing still. It is absolutely Biden's fault that he is using his 60 days discretion for funding military action before the senate weighs in, and it isn't some logical fallacy to say that we should not be doing that.

Also, Biden could actually start guiding US diplomats to pressure Israel more by not vetoing UN resolutions that would aid Palestine/attempt to curb Israel's genocidal action.

Just like with any other issue, multiple layers of effort can help reduce said issue. Masks, airflow, testing, and vaccines don't stop COVID, but they do a pretty good job at reducing risk and illness. Although the US cannot unilaterally stop Israel from bombing the hell out of innocents, the US can certainly do a few things to make it clear that they should stop.

[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

If the US stops supplying them weapons they wouldnt have any to use.

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 1 points 5 months ago

Are you aware they can and do make their own weapons, and even sell some to the US? I ask, because based on your single sentence, it seems you like you aren't.

[-] Nudding@lemmy.world -5 points 5 months ago

As a Canadian, chill out.

[-] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 months ago

Brain dead take.

[+] Nudding@lemmy.world -6 points 5 months ago

Yeah dude, let's all shut the fuck up about the genocide. Normal take.

[-] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 months ago

Nah, just stop trying to put it on Biden. No american president would have done any less to support israel.

[-] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one -1 points 5 months ago

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[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Removed, rule 3:

"Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (perjorative, perjorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (perjorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect!"

[-] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago

Yeah, they all have a list of things that they should be dragged in front a court for, except maybe Jimmy Carter.

Calling me names doesn't change reality.

[-] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 0 points 5 months ago

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[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

2nd rule 3 violation. Temp ban. Stop calling other users psychopaths.

[-] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago

Where is your condemnation of the people actually committing the genocide? Do you call out Netanyahu, or the IDF? What about the citizens of Israel who support this? Why aren't they the ones you are focusing on.

It's less kosher to commit genocide.

[-] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one -1 points 5 months ago

........ Are you fucking stupid? I dont vote for israeli politicians. I dont pay tax to israeli coffers.

I cant rally my government to shut israel murder off at the source because we are paying them to slaughter children.

Whats this apologetic whataboutism bullshit? My country should be stopping its own funding and promoting of genocide before it is able to stop someone elses slaughter.

Why are you so eager to defend the funding of israels slaughter?

[-] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago

Shocker, I can want the killing to stop but realise that regardless of what the US does, Israel is going to continue.

[-] Nudding@lemmy.world -5 points 5 months ago

So maybe it's time to get upset about your country's defacto support of genocide.

[-] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 months ago

Not my country, but I can recognise reality.

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