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Politicians constantly talk about stopping the illegal immigrants that are coming from Mexico, but putting a wall has never and will never be a solution since the reason why so many displaced keep coming across the border is mostly to escape the crime, corruption, inequality, and violence of they have to live in their home countries. The worst part is that most of these terrible things is that happen in third world countries are rooted in constant subversion by developed countries, primarily the US. I feel like since we caused this (even if in part) we should help stop it now, even if we didn't publicly admit guilt to save face.

So, how do we do it? Do we straight up invade Mexico and go on a full out war against the cartels like we did against Osama Bin Laden?

If not, why not? And, is there anything that can be done?

I would like to keep things civil. Please, let's keep this respectful as I know this is a tough issue and there is anger on both sides of this issue.

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[-] Surp@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Probably nothing. Mexican citizens will have to rise up and it won't be without loss. It will legit be civil war. You can't stop people from wanting drugs.

[-] BobGnarley@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

You could regulate the market for that demand that will never go away though. Legalize drugs and prostitution, problem 80% solved

[-] Mathazzar@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

The cartel is probably far beyond drugs and prostitution only these days. Arms trafficking, human trafficking, etc would remain largely viable methods of funding.

And the cartels are smart enough that they'd just shift pipelines and continue to be a large issue.

[-] Bye@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

People are posting all kinds of ridiculous solutions that they know are impossible. Legalize drugs. Use less drugs. The cartels run more than just drugs! They run fucking avocados!! And electronics!! They have diversified. Never mind that it’s politically impossible to do anything like that. It can’t happen.

Invading Mexico and shooting the cartels CAN happen. It gives money to the defense industry, which itself is enough reason that it could happen. It’s probably even in the USA’s best interest to try and de-corrupt Mexico (never mind that this would be a bloody mess with huge loss of life). My point isn’t that it’s a good idea, it’s that it’s a solution that could actually happen in real life.

[-] BobGnarley@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Heres an idea, reguate the drug and prostitution trade and let them keep their electronics and avocadoes and shit. They will take a major hit financial wise and be forced to be merchants selling Avocadoes and electronics

[-] Bye@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

You know they’d still be shooting people, right?

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Bankrupt them by legalization/regulation/discouragement/taxation of all drugs and then flood money into R&D of any product they move into. Are they messing with Avocado growers? Spend ten billion developing ways to grow them in Florida.

[-] MxM111@kbin.social 0 points 10 months ago

Let's not pretend that the border patrol (including the wall where it makes sense) is not part of illegal immigration the solution. Any country should be able to control who enters its borders.

As for cartels, drug legalization in US will go long way. Investments into Mexico economy is another path. Cartels, are not ideological enemies like jihadists/terrorists. Give them opportunities to earn money safely and more profitable in legal ways and they will disappear.

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