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[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 65 points 2 years ago (9 children)

So let's do nothing at all.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 11 points 2 years ago

How dare you! They made a meme.

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I read it as suggesting we should do more, not less.

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[–] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 45 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Yeah, that sucks. I'd rather start somewhere than just throw my hands up and go "well, it's fucked, may as well not try."

[–] skulkingaround@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

My thought is, sure we can tax the rich and make them less rich. But I find it hard to believe that the government is going to magically allocate those resources in a way that actually benefits Joe Schmoe. On top of that, even if you totally liquidated every billionaire, you'd get less than $2k for every person in America. Make it $4k if you only distribute it to the bottom half. Sure, it would be nice and I think billionaires are a scourge, but I don't think it's going to fix the problems people think it will.

Seems to me that the people going on and on about eating the rich would get a lot more done if they focused on achievable policy goals that directly affect their community. I would bet money 95% of the clowns that keep going on about this stuff don't even know who their city councilman is and have never been to a town hall meeting.

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[–] theodewere@kbin.social 44 points 2 years ago (12 children)

this is what a whiney ass Russian says about life.. this is how a coward thinks.. this is what defeat looks like from inside the mind of the loser..

[–] heavy@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I agree, memes like this act like this isn't a reason to try. It's an illusion to think one solution solves all problems. There are several problems here and having the wealthy pay their share will be part of the solution.

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[–] Clent@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This meme has been brought to you by an anonymous Asian country's disinformation campaign.

Please give up.

[–] Artyom@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

You have been banned from hexhear for unrelated reasons

[–] giantfloppycock@lemm.ee 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is why we tax and eat them.

[–] JustinAngel@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

Now this is a policy I can get behind.

[–] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

All military spending comprises ~10-15% of the budget, just a FYI.

The military budget isn’t stopping anything. In 2022, $4.1 Trillion was spent on mandatory programs (social security, Medicare, Medicaid, income security).

Social security, Medicare, and Medicaid alone were just shy of $3 Trillion.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's still a rediculously large military budget and it's incredible how much we spend on our social programs only for them to still suck ass

[–] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Fixing our social programs would go so far to make things better without even changing anything else at all.

The amount of money spent isn’t the issue, it’s how inefficiently it’s spent.

[–] JustinAngel@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

Agreed!

I think that was part of my thinking with my hot take.

I'm all for the rich paying their fair share, but maximizing what we already have is important too.

[–] JustinAngel@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Admittedly, I thought these percentages were different.

Not above admitting when I'm wrong.

https://www.pgpf.org/budget-basics/budget-explainer-national-defense

[–] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

No worries.

A part of that is that there’s the entire budget of all federal outlays and then “the budget” which is what the President requests and Congress authorizes.

That is solely the discretionary spending. It’s unfortunate that it’s the only thing that actually gets talked about in the media.

Related, but interest on the debt is set to pass military spending like next year even.

[–] Lemmyvisitor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

if the military industrial complex gets rich then they are also taxed

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[–] EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Not true and even if true I'm ok with it, I love lockmart, nuke the Kremlin.

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[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Fact: despite popular perception and rhetoric, the government does not actually need to issue taxes pay for things. Taxing the rich does not actually act as a source of revenue; it disincentivizes greater Extremes of price gouging and wage suppression as well as reducing the wealth disparity between the the poor and wealthy.

Your objection is nonsensical, misleading, and damaging to the cause. Good job. 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏

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[–] Rayspekt@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If rather have a military armed to the teeth than the super rich getting even richer.

[–] Rudee@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

US military is already larger than the 4 next largest militaries worldwide IIRC, so no need to worry about being a paper tiger

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago

Are you suggesting we must choose between monarchy and fascism?

[–] FIST_FILLET@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

as opposed to the rich people doing military donations on their own? the spotify ceo invested in fucking AI military killing machines man grow up. you have no control over rich people and they have demonstrated that there is no reason to trust them. the government sucks too, but at least you get to cast a vote on how much it sucks. stop bootlicking

[–] JustinAngel@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I'm all for taxing the rich, but I'm even more for rooting out the corruption that enables the rich to become the monsters they are. This isn't bootlicking, its holding the opinion that the priorities are out of order.

Thanks for sharing your perspective.

[–] Justas@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Even stuff like welfare and social benefits help the rich more than the poor. Walmart can have billions of profits while their people make so little they have to apply for aid. If aid wasn't there, they would have to pay proper wages and their profits would be smaller.

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