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I can wear a dress to work and nobody criticizes me. I’d be really sad if I had to wear pants all the time, they’re just not as comfortable. Let’s normalize pretty dresses for dudes!

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[-] TheBananaKing@lemmy.world 168 points 1 year ago

Yea, but let's design some to work on male bodies. Dresses are generally built for female body shapes, and rely on curves most guys just don't have in order to complete the shape - so we end up looking like Graveyard Barbie in them.

Guys tend to be a lot more oblong, and the overall design would need a rethink in order to actively work with that shape, instead of unsuccessfully trying to compensate for it.

No, I don't know how to do this.

[-] schrodingers_dinger@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago

I was a slutty nun for Halloween and looking cute in a skirt is definitely possible, but man does it take a lot of work to find anything that fits decently. Dresses are simply impossible to find of course because, as you said, the shape is not at all made for men.

Also that outfit made me want to go full f1nn5ter and dress up in feminine clothes all the time lol. It's so much fun! I'm so down for people to figure out how to make the shape work for masculine body shapes.

[-] boeman@lemmy.world 84 points 1 year ago

I was a slutty nun for Halloween

Just don't make it a habit.

[-] ElectroVagrant@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

I don't know if I could keep that vow.

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[-] pragmakist@kbin.social 30 points 1 year ago

My first thought when I read op was that trousers are a relative new development.

The Romans made fun of the Gauls for wearing them.

So if you decide to wear traditional Roman dress, trousers shouldn't be included.

But it's still designed for men.

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[-] Snafu@kbin.social 27 points 1 year ago

Dudes in parts of Africa and the Middle East have already got it figured out. Djellabas look fantastic on most men. I'd love to see more people wearing them.

[-] Xariphon@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago

More like Robes than Dresses, maybe? Could start with some Indian or Middle Eastern fashions as a starting point...

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[-] Xariphon@kbin.social 106 points 1 year ago

Honestly, one thing I hate about being biologically male is that men's clothes all look so goddamn generic.

Oh, you're wearing a suit. It's. A suit. I guess. They all look the same.

You're wearing jeans. And a t-shirt. And they all look basically the same.

Khakis and a polo? You madlad. Well, you and everybody else at the country club. Who all look exactly the fucking same.

The thing that really gets me is, it didn't used to be this way. You look at pictures of people in paintings and whatnot and men had some wild shit going on. There was variety, if somewhat less, even into the early 20th. But... seriously tell me if I'm wrong here... it feels like we got to WWII and men's fashion just stopped. Like an entire generation of men put on uniforms and eighty years later we still haven't completely taken them off.

[-] exterstellar@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago

They don't ALL look the same. It's just that the stuff that actually looks non-generic are either super expensive or super uncomfortable.

[-] Scope@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago

Or, just bad. There's nothing generic about Ed Hardy. Most people elect to look generic rather than be caught dead in that mess.

[-] pain_is_life_is_pain@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

True that! I have some awesome looking denim pants, that are literally painted with colorful paint. I always get compliments from both men and women when I wear them. I also got them basically for free at the store, since no one were buying them.

But, they're about as comfortable as you would expect denim pants painted with thick paint to be: stiff and scratchy.

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[-] SolarNialamide@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

Mainstream clothes for sure, but I feel the same way about mainstream women's clothes. Waist high jeans, an inoffensively colored top and a vest or blazer. Switch out the jeans for beige linen pants in the summer. Yawn. If you want inspiration for some more interesting clothes in general but men in particular, you gotta look to non-mainstream subcultures. Especially ones that don't give shit about gender. I hung out with hippies for years and men and women alike are dressed in cool, colorful and interesting clothes. Both genders wear pants, dresses, and skirts. It heavily inspired my style and believe me, I stand out a lot among other women. If you want more variety you have got to look further than what's mainstream. Because that'll always trend towards boring and basic.

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[-] Creazle@lemmy.world 66 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Some workmates and I petitioned our boss for the return of 70's office shorts over the course of one hot summer, to no avail.

[-] Deceptichum@kbin.social 28 points 1 year ago

70s? Those are just summer work clothes in Australia.

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[-] Hillock@kbin.social 63 points 1 year ago

As a man I never considered pants to be uncomfortable. They are the perfect mix of range of motion, hiding the private parts. and support. Dresses, skirts, and robes seem like a nightmare to wear. You either restrict your range of motion or have to constantly worry about showing your underwear. And I would wear boxer briefs underneath by choice anyhow, so I still end up wearing pants.

I think the bigger issue is that most of us men are too lazy to look for different kinds of pants and end up wearing the same stuff year-round. Which can indeed become uncomfortable due to changes in temperature. But that issue wouldn't be fixed by having access to dresses or robes. As again, some would either be too cold or too hot.

[-] SolarNialamide@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

I used to have a pretty intense not-like-the-other-girls fase in my teens, and I never wore skirts or dresses, and felt the same way you do. Then I got over that internalized misogyny and started experimenting with clothes a little, and the first time I put on a dress it was like a hallelujah moment. The most comfortable thing in the goddamn world. They do not restrict your movement at all, that's only a problem if you wear knee-high pencil skirts of stiff fabric. In colder seasons you wear leggings under them which are equally comfortable. It was so incredibly comfy I did a complete 180 and it took me 10 years to wear a pair of pants again, and that's only because the waist high mom jeans in style now are so loose and non-restricting. Any other style of pants I won't touch with a 10 feet pole.

[-] LChitman@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago

But how do you sit in an office chair with your feet on the seat, like I do, in a dress?

No, I refuse to sit properly.

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[-] Skellybones@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago

Nah no pity here, we got pockets best thing in the world you should probably feel more envious really

[-] atomicorange@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago

I’m gonna design a dress made of nothing but pockets out of pure spite.

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[-] sorenant@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't mind dressing in tunic+toga.

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[-] Today@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago

A friend has a degree in fashion design and her senior project was a clothing line that you ordered by measurement instead of men's/women's sizing so it was supposed to fit a person not a gender.

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[-] Usually_Lurker@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

I think those are called kilts, and some of the cooler ones come with pockets (just like the cool lady dresses.

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[-] wolre@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

Completely agree. While both pants and dresses have their pros and cons, it should be everybody's own choice which one they want to wear. I hope that this is something that will change over time.

[-] Quasar@lemmy.fmhy.ml 29 points 1 year ago

A few summers ago I brought up the idea that men should be allowed to wear shorts to the office if women can wear dresses and my boss literally laughed in my face. We work in a small-ish office and are not client facing so who tf cares what we wear? A while later they made a whole big deal about us being allowed to wear jeans to the office ever day (vs only on Fridays) you could hear a pin drop at the staff meeting. It was painful but satisfying to watch. Fuck those assholes…

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[-] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

At least if men wore more skirts and dresses then manufacturers would add pockets.

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[-] AncillaryJustice@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago
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[-] coffeewithalex@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Wear whatever the hell you want, right? Screw genders and made up rules around them.

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[-] itsJoelleScott@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

Boxers-while-working gang rise up.

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[-] Voyajer@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago
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[-] bilb@lem.monster 24 points 1 year ago

This is why I am nude 100% of the time.

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[-] electrogamerman@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Im pro men wearing whatever the f they want. Im not pro shaming men wearing pans to promote men wearing dresses

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[-] stringere@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

I have 4 kilts and wear them to work when I want to, almost as a dare to management so I can retire off a lawsuit. Utilikilts and Verillas have great kilts with pockets for workin' men that like a pretty skirt.

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[-] AletheCrow@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago

Pants are optional when entering my house however underwear is mandatory lol.

A lot of comments here are not wrong. Men’s clothing in general doesn’t have a lot of variety. 4 different colors of the same style shirt or more doesn’t count as variety. Look in a big box clothing store and you’ll see that the women’s section is almost always 2 to nearly 3x larger.

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[-] Stan@lemmywinks.com 22 points 1 year ago

I mean, I don’t have to wear pants…

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[-] casio77@reddthat.com 21 points 1 year ago
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[-] Lazerbeams2@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago
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[-] Z4rK@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Any links to dress fashion for men?

I’m all for it. I hate wearing pants in the summer, but we’re not allowed to wear shorts. However, no one can refuse me wearing a long skirt or dress!

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[-] lingh0e@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

I agree with your overall sentiment, but I'm good keeping my ugly knees and hairy legs covered.

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[-] popemichael@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

I'm cool with pants. It's one less thing to worry about, not having my crotch exposed or readily available.

Plus, if I fall, my legs are more protected

[-] xyzinferno@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

I may be in the minority on this, but I wear pants to work every day, even in the summer, and it doesn't feel uncomfortable. I just like wearing my jeans, and if anything, I've gotten more flak from friends about not wearing shorts enough

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[-] TheDoctorDonna@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

My boss made it very clear that while the pictures in our dress code handbook are of the general gender stereotypes, doesn't mean we are holding people to that. As long as you are business casual it doesn't matter how you represent.

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[-] floppy@rabbitea.rs 17 points 1 year ago

And skirts. They are soooo comfy, but it's not socially acceptable to go outside in one.

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