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Parents and teachers are taking the wrong approach here. The proper response is "Your terms are acceptable".
Google no longer has a monopoly on search. They don't even have a particularly good search engine anymore. Even if the administrators want to keep some of the AI tools, they should get rid of Google search anyway.
Sysadmin changes the search engine, done.
Why not both move away from Google, and call them out for extorsion?
What extortion?
"Our urine soup is bundled with our turd sandwich. If you won't eat our turd sandwich, we won't let you have our urine soup."
The way they arranged their ultimatum, one would expect "Google Search" to be a desirable product, rather than a steaming bowl of piss.
I think people are getting confused because the format of the ultimatum looks a lot like extortion, when it's actually just clever marketing for some inferior products: "This urine soup must be good if they expect us to choke down a turd sandwich just to try it."
Okay? There are other search engines and google has gone to shit in recent years.
Yeah, this headline keeps coming up and the angry reactions are just silly.
Google's not offering a product that the schools want. Okay, Google's loss. The schools can use a different provider.
its mostly AI generated search anyways. noticed that like a year or 2 ago how it changed suddenly overnight.
Parents and teachers are out of touch. Block googles domains and carry on. Google has shitty search and can be replaced easily.
Just use DDG instead?
Personally I don't think children should be exposed to AI fullstop, because it absolutely can rot your ability to think and do for yourself, and the temptation is always there to use it - heck look at what's happening with the amount of students using it to cheat in universities.
But at this moment in time there's nothing stopping kids accessing AI tools outside of the school's purview and still have it rot their minds, so perhaps schools should be teaching responsible use - and highlighting that it has no true ability to discern truth from bullshit, so will absolutely hallucinate and lie to you.
I would love for ab education system where AI just wouldn't help - i.e. that's focussed on application of knowledge and its adaption instead of reciting it.
But that is so far off that your take seems to be the only sane one. Especially your second paragraph: it would be so easy to show how broken these models are.
Although it would need way more time for teachers to just stay up to date. Just a few weeks ago my default prompt was fixed and my example of "this will literally kill you" now gives out proper results. Need to find a new, deadly LLM invention!
use DDG, or another search engine.
what's to prevent schools from changing the browser's search to Duck Duck Go? Or kids don't use a school account and login into a private account using a VPN.
Or no VPN or account at school. When I was at school no one used a google account. Its not like schools have to sign everyone up to google if they don't want to.
I’ve had Google blocked for like five years and literally the only impact it’s had is that sometimes I have to unblock for ReCaptcha.
Go to the library and stop supportimg fascists you degenerates.