But you can be mad and still love someone.
I mean that's fair. We've fucked up our international relationships for at least the next 50 years.
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I can’t ask forgiveness of other nations. But I can ask that they watch their own parties. The same botsphere that aided in getting America to destroy itself has made smaller infiltrations into other nations’ politics. Brazil has thankfully done great, Germany has faltered a bit, the UK is fully off the Zionist cliff.
Just don’t be naive enough to blame Trump alone. He wasn’t nearly smart enough to capture this much control.
People who understand what is going on know Trump is a symptom, not the problem.
Trump becoming President didn't make the US the way it is, Trump became President because the US is the way it is.
Very high chance Stephen Miller will be President.
Forgive them...? Uh, you're still fucking around with tariffs. No. Still wouldn't after their removal but asking to be friends while you still have a knife in our gut is pretty insane.
My favorite development of the 20s is the new world order unified in cooperation and dislike of America.
There is not a single anarchist who could have harmed the government nearly as much as Trump has.
the new world order unified in cooperation and dislike of America.
- The US is still the country most people would like to immigrate to. The US is disliked only by some Internet political posters.
- And the US government is still very much intact in spite of Trump's attempts to destroy it for Putin.
- US allies are on pause while waiting for Trump's admin and influence to end. They don't want to risk exposing their state secrets to traitors in the current administration.
This article is almost a year old, but it's still very relevant:
We will never fucking trust you again
The therapist analogy is a good one. Elsewhere I saw someone talking about your ex being a week sober. Same idea. This is going to take way more than one election to set right.
The same voters are still voting who elected Donald Trump - and then fucking reelected him with full knowledge of who he is and what he does. No other country should trust us again at least until one generation of voters dies off, so 30 years. Maybe longer depending on how things go for those 30 years.
non-yank here, the one saving grace i see with the maga movement is that it's a cult of personality, and political movements don't tend to come back once they devolve into cults of personalities. like who's gonna run it? jd vance, who doesn't have the charisma to please a couch, let alone to run a country? hegseth, who is hated by his own party more than democrats hate a leftist? rubio, who sees maga more as a problem to solve and manoeuvre around than a movement that defines him? bannon and miller, who are so cartoonishly evil that they had to run things from the shadows even in a country that elected bloody trump?
i sincerely hope you do not have a good answer to this question. if you do, "never" is accurate. if you don't, we might start trusting you again in like two admins or so. but we would definitely like to see some progress first, and while the blue wave in the midterms halts the decline, the hope for progress is pretty slim so far.
I don’t know who could conceivably replace Trump in his movement. But that is no consolation because Trump’s rise to political power was completely out of left field and really not predictable either.
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The United States is a failed nation and according to its own libertarian principles, should be cut off from stronger nations and allowed to die naturally.
the thing about libertarian principles is that the vast majority of people who claim to believe in them only believe in them one way
As an American, I don't feel right asking for forgiveness just yet. We've won a major battle but I worry people will take the midterm victory as a conclusion to the MAGA era and disengage, allowing it to take hold again. We've got a lot more work to do before we earn any sense of redemption.
Democrats are off to a bad start. Yes, I am aware that the newly elected have yet to take office. Multiple democrats failed to vote for Hegseth's impeachment, another incumbent says that the old guard are threatening him. If Jeffries remains in place then you know it's business as usual.
i think the bigger problem with hegseth's impeachment is he cannot be allowed to be replaced before january. after that, the democrats have a lot of leverage over who takes his place, because they can just say no to anyone trump presents, and acting secretaries of defence have significantly lower credibility than proper ones.
…I mean at least the Zionist took his whole fucking mask off.
Absolutely. It's nice to know where everybody stands.
The „checks and balances“ need reforming to actually resist capitulation to the executive branch. Most monarchs throughout history have had less power than Trump has been granted.
IMHO as an outsider, repealing Citizens United would be a step in the right direction, as would enforcing the requirement for Congress to declare war, not the President. In fact, generally curtailing presidential powers would be beneficial IMO.
I'm curious what others, especially Americans, would suggest.
American here. I suggest abolishing the Supreme Court and the Senate, max every member of the house to representing 10,000 people, replace the President with a Prime Minister, Abolish ICE CIA NSA and FBI, ending copyright law, and making union membership mandatory.
That's a good start.
curtailing presidential powers would be beneficial IMO.
In normal times, congress would limit the president's powers, but the republican congress decided to let Trump have his way, with disastrous results.
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Too early to tell, like the fucking post WWII Nazis, the Orange MAGA Turds continue to lurk around out there and they can still inflict a lot of damage by simply opening their f'n mouths.
As a Canadian, nah. America's basically manic/unstable. You voted in Biden after the first Trump shitshow, and then went back to Trump. There's absolutely no guarantee that America won't just elect Donald Trump Junior to be dictator in a future election cycle.
Even more, many dems are quietly supporting the general moves of the government, in regards to tariffs etc. They just wanted the verbiage to be a bit nicer, as America went about fucking over their allies.
Our leaders will likely bend over at some point, because that's what politicians seem to do. But for the rest of us, I hope we continue avoiding America, and continue pushing for separating our economies / cultures / critical industries. Only way I'd be enticed to consider moving closer to how ties were before, would be if we see America do what a "Leader" of the "Free world" should do: allow your war criminals to be tried in the international criminal court for their crimes against humanity etc.
Don't impeach. Send Hegseth to the Hague, then we'll talk.
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There is a Japanese saying that is something like "A thousand years of good reputation is lost in a single hour."
Trump and those that propped him up has burned through the single most valuable resource the US had. Trust.
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I don't blame them not trusting the US government. Just wish I didn't get blamed for my asshole government and countrymen. I get it's the hazard of a collective association, but it sucks to be lumped in with people I despise and have fought to prevent.
As an Iranian I know this feeling. Damned if you do, damned if you don't; it's always too little, too late. You just gotta keep going, don't lose track of what's right.
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