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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by JGrffn@lemmy.world to c/firefox@lemmy.ml

As if it wasn't bad enough that they want me to use a random internet service to add a keyboard to a usb wifi receiver, they have the balls to put this for Firefox users. I clicked out of pure curiosity, as I'm not even remotely interested in involving a corporate internet service in getting my keyboard connected to my computer. This is the message you get now on Logi Options software if you have a Unifying Receiver: This is the message you get now on Logi Options software if you have a Unifying Receiver

For the curious: https://logiwebconnect.com

EDIT: some people on the thread have brought up that the error message being displayed for Firefox users is due to the WebUSB API not being implemented by Firefox due to security concerns. This still does not justify having to use a web app to plug peripherals to a PC.

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[-] littlecolt@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago

LMAO Opera??? Jesus, Logitech. I love my Logitech mouse but this is reason enough to go with someone like Corsair next time I need one.

[-] bappity@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

these sort of shitty browser support walls on sites worry me more about the browser DRM Google is developing

[-] Xeknos@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

I was already moving toward never buying Logitech again, but this shit seals the deal.

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[-] ohokthatsgood@midwest.social 20 points 1 year ago

They used to force you to download a random app to get your peripherals connected, which was incredibly annoying for me. Didn't think they could find a way to make things even more annoying. No more Logitech peripherals for me I guess.

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[-] 0xff@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

If this tool runs in the browser, I bet it's using the WebUSB API, which Firefox doesn't appear to support: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/USB

[-] normonator@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago
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[-] PenguinJuice@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago

Tech is becoming aids. I miss the day you had an aux cable and a USB cable and that's all the fuck you needed.

[-] DrZoidberg@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago

Guess you're too young to remember the PS/2 cable all mouse and keyboards used.

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[-] Jaysyn@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago

Want to actually stop this? Buy a device & return it because of this. Now repeat once a week at a different store. Use cash.

[-] TechnoBabble@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

Cashier: "So, uh... Why are you returning this?"

Serial Return Activist: "Because I have to use Chrome to install the device, and I don't want to use Chrome because of browser monopoly and privacy concerns."

Cashier: "Got it."

Checks box marked 'Found A Lower Price'

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[-] criticon@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 year ago

This still does not justify having to use a web app to plug peripherals to a PC.

Unify is so you can add several devices to a single USB dongle. The keyboard itself should work out of the box without using that website, that's an extra feature

[-] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 12 points 1 year ago

OK that makes more sense. But still. I'm sure it would have been possible to do that with only local resources. This is just a security nightmare waiting to happen, even if you don't care about the privacy implications.

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[-] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago

This recent trend of using the browser window to handle logins and authentication is lame. Several apps that I use at work use the browser for file tracking too. You open a shared file, which opens the browser, which then opens the program with the correct file. Like what the fuck? It's lazy and annoying. They polute your workspace with open tabs that you never wanted. If they're going to use the browser for handling everything, then just make it a fucking web app! But nooo! You need to download our program so that we can track you, even though we actually use the browser for all of the functionality.

[-] powers@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago

Browser auth is easier to dev and more secure because SSL is pre-established. Browsers tend to get security updates more often and have built in cert stores. Browsers are so central to an OS nowadays that path traversal is easier to set up, relative to individual apps.

If every application had to write this functionally, companies would have to redirect dev focus away from their core services and, most likely, would be shittier (for a number of reasons). It would also lead to more OS bloat.

On the other hand, if every app was a web app they'd be able to track you even better than they do now (at least regarding human interaction with the app itself); it's easy to set up an outbound block on an application that isn't a browser. On the other hand, installed apps can establish persistence. Like how Logitech does with its options software (I fucking hate this behavior btw).

  • Note that I'm not disagreeing with your opinion, just trying to enrich it
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[-] okamiueru@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Something something, Linux?

[-] Newchair@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago
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[-] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 year ago

They support opera but not firefox -_-

[-] mellejwz@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Isn't that because Opera is Chromium based?

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[-] vodka@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

This reminds me that we need a windows port of Solaar (https://github.com/pwr-Solaar/Solaar)

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[-] derpgon@programming.dev 14 points 1 year ago

Would be an instant return for me. Last one I bought didn't require anything (MX Master 3S) and just works out of the box with any machine, luckily.

[-] csolisr@communities.azkware.net 13 points 1 year ago

Is WebUSB on Firefox unsupported as in "not implemented at all" or as in "available solely on the nightly build with a specific about:config flag on"?

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[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Oh neat. We're back to the bad old days of "This website requires IE Version 6."

[-] jfx@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 year ago

Soo... Bye Logitech, it was good while it lasted with you.

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[-] Synthead@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

VIA jumped onboard to this proprietary stuff, too: https://usevia.app

It's a real shame. Related threads for both Logitech and VIA:

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[-] quixotic120@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Logitech has been making atrociously shitty fucking internet based software for pretty decent hardware since the first harmony remote back in 2001. Only buy their hardware if it absolutely will never require software of any kind imo

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[-] arefx@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

Was gonna replace my g502 with a new one but I'll be looking at other brands now.

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[-] donut4ever@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

Are you fucking serious?

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