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[–] LeninsWorldTour@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

humans developed intelligence

humans developed intelligent ways to combat disease

horror

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Even if eugenics was a good thing (it isn't), do they really think that with their ideology that dysgenics wouldn't rise as well?

Porky will literally develop conditions to sabotage people on a genetic level until they become human cattle. To do otherwise would be "leaving money on the table". Although it was posted as a joke, this explains why some people push for car dependency even if they know that it will harm people. If we followed that advice beat for beat, the world would be shittier materially even if it 'benefits' the economy: the only thing we are given permission to care about.

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 2 years ago

It never left

[–] M68040@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago

I mean, yeah. Fuck natural selection. Shit sucks

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago

It's never left sadly.

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Eugenics has a point, actually. Because if all the eugenicists stopped breeding it would definitely be better for the human race.

[–] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

Doubtful. Most of these losers aren't getting none and, if anything, it's making their opinions worse.

[–] pixelghost@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago

Putting this guy in the woods with a box of matches, a knife, and a go-pro. Leaning back in my chair and watching.

[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The problem is it not obvious why this is factually wrong.

It IS obvious why it's morally wrong.

The clarity comes when you actually understand science and realize that we're correcting our genes faster than mutation could ever hope to.

It's sad that nuance is lost.

[–] D61@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (5 children)

The problem is it not obvious why this is factually wrong.

Well, I mean... no?

Mutations aren't "negative" things. They're just things and in some times and places that mutation is maladaptive, in others they're adaptive, and in many more cases they're just not gonna have a strong effect in either direction.

Its a very rudimentary understanding of mutation as a "wrong" thing that never gets corrected in basic education. Not even an ignorance of science thing, just a basic incorrect definition of the word.

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[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

If you want, I do have three logic-based reasons against eugenics:

  • Eugenics means assigning human values to nature, and therefore our human emotions will determine what our kids might have.

  • Eugenics is just hyper-domestication. They claim that modern medicine is evil, but eugenics will just domesticate us further and will really bite us in the ass if civilization collapses (CHUDs drool of the day civilization collapses and they can act out their LARP.)

  • How do we know this won't set a precedent for using eugenics to create an inherit slave class as "the help" and who will get to decide who is and isn't a slave?

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[–] mayo_cider@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago

It's not like this whole society we live in wasn't originated from some monkies learning to take care of another monkey who broke their leg long enough that the bones fused back together

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