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[–] dontpanic@lemmy.blahaj.zone 97 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Who could have POSSIBLY predicted this

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"Men who the data should be hidden from is saying data is improperly hidden"

IDGAF what the DHS' opinion is on this, it's probably the same as when they were pushing hard to get local PDs and Sherriffs to store arrest records on a federal DHS database. This is the department above the ICE.

[–] NekoKoneko@lemmy.world 89 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

If you are at a US airport, you will be made to feel like you need to scan your face. The TSA agent will say, "look at the camera" like there's no choice. You don't need to. Always just say "opt-out." That's all you need to do.

They will check your ID and use their eyeballs to compare it to your face, taking all of 10 extra seconds, and safeguarding your privacy a little bit more.

These types of security issues are inevitable, and the only way to win this game is to not play.

From the article:

Reminder: Opting Out of TSA Photos Is Possible Given that facial recognition technology is prone to mistakes, combined with the OIG’s audit revealing significant privacy weaknesses, it is imperative that travelers remember that opting out is possible. TSA’s own website emphasizes that travelers who wish to decline to have their photo taken for facial comparison can do so without any delay, disruption, or recourse.

[–] diablomnky@lemmy.world 44 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I opt out every time and without fail get "randomly" selected for additional screening, for this I always give them double birds during the additional screening.

[–] AbsoluteBroomstick@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

I fuck with airport security screens as much as possible. My latest is to show up an hour early with a couple of butter knives I 'borrowed' from previous flights. I have a collection from airlines from around the world so I match my upcoming carrier when I can. Watching those apes struggle to verify if my completely blunt, clearly approved butter knives are somehow restricted is worth the lost time.

My favorite is when they claim they're forbidden and I get to pose the obvious objection: if they're restricted due to posing a safety hazard, why is it acceptable that I'll get one anyhow on my upcoming flight? How is that identical butter knife safer?

[–] qqq@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I opt out every time and have never gotten randomly selected for additional screening. Maybe you're getting profiled in another way?

[–] diablomnky@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Possibly, although I doubt it. I'm your average white guy with pre-check using a Global Entry ID. So I got all their extra vetting done and I suspect this is just harassment for knowing my rights.

[–] bantering@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Unfortunately I wasn’t born with enough privilege to attempt to question a tsa agent. I get randomly selected enough as it is.

[–] NekoKoneko@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I empathize and if that's the way you feel, that's understandable.

But I'd recommend to try it, even if your feelings suggest it's just going to make trouble. As noted, there is an explicit non-discretionary optional policy for it and TSA agents - even if they're trying to make the photo seem like the only choice - get a ton of opt-outs every day and it's probably not going to (for the moment) trigger retribution. (I say this traveling with non-white people and never seeing them get secondarily screened later in the process, or more so than me anyway - but yes, I'm speaking from a place of privilege so could be wrong.)

[–] TransNeko@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

before I started being openly transgender... I never got that "randomly selected extra screening" not even after my surgery which had me on crutches.

now... I always get that random screening. every time. and my legs are a bit bowed. so they always bitch about my legs not being perfectly straight even when I'm wearing shorts and they can see my knees. and the white dust that I always pick up leaning against airport walls... is always magically drugs even when the dog doesn't react.

[–] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

As I witnessed today, even just stating that you are opting out is not enough. You must ensure, of your own accord, that the camera is not directed at you when you approach the TSA agent, or else it will automatically photograph you.

I've also had a TSA agent tell me that I need to tell them I opt out before handing them my ID. This is obviously problematic but that's just how this shit works today.

[–] NekoKoneko@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

I wear an N95 mask and only remove it after opting out. Yes, good advice for sure.

[–] The_v@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Ever since they introduced the facial recognition software I have opted out. I always approach the station at an angle if possible or with my passport between the camera and my face if not. Then when thy ask me to step in front of the camera a simple "No, thank you" has always worked. Polite yet firm and they hand me back my passport and away I go. It's pretty much always faster.

Every so often you get a dickhead that makes a show of it taking longer to verifying it by their own eyeballs.

That being said, if you a flying internationally anymore, your picture at least will be taken when you enter.

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not every country lets you opt out though unfortunately, so you're fucked no matter what.

[–] NekoKoneko@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Yes, agree - domestic flights are the only ones you can control. But note you can opt-out at least on the US TSA side and boarding side even on international flights.

[–] Lemming6969@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But now if you do scan you get a brand new no touch Id line that's even shorter.

[–] NekoKoneko@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

So far that isn't the case and I've flown a lot recently. But yeah, I'm as pessimistic as you are about the future - I won't be surprised when (not if) they do this.

[–] y0kai@anarchist.nexus 44 points 1 week ago

I'd post my shocked pikachu face but due to improper TSA data safeguarding practices, it was stolen.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There's no legitimate reason to have DHS or TSA to begin with.

There's zero benefit, and neither existed before 9/11

[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 29 points 1 week ago

There's zero benefit, and neither existed before 9/11

And nothing they do now would have stopped 9/11.

[–] ogy@fedia.io 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

NZ's DIY hardware chain Bunnings is also doing facial recognition in their stores, and I'm amazed people still go. With all the bad shit that constantly happens, you think a random DIY store is going to keep your digital likeness safe?

[–] Slartifartblast@piefed.social 6 points 1 week ago

They're doing the same shit here in Australia.

Never liked Bunnings. Less so now.

[–] popekingjoe@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Of course. This makes perfect sense.