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[–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Which one was he again? Was he the Michael Scott or the Patrick Bateman??

[–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 109 points 5 days ago (6 children)

AI is obviously a bubble.

That said, Burry has also predicted 6 of the last 2 crashes.

[–] TeaWithDani@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago

More like 20. Besides, most of these articles are just reporters misunderstanding Burry's trades. Guy is a trader, in and out. By time you know his positions, he's sold and moved on.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 21 points 5 days ago (1 children)

He got Tesla wrong. Very hard to underestimate meme stocks.

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[–] VinegarChunks@lemmus.org 16 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Calling a bubble is easy.

Calling the top of the bubble or the bottom of the crash is the more or less impossible part.

It could very well be a bubble, and come crashing down to a low point that is still higher than it is today.

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[–] terranoid@lemmy.cafe 194 points 6 days ago (24 children)

I had a boomer normie ask me how to use AI to develop his new "business" website telling me that he didn't want to hire a developer if the developer would just use AI anyway.

This guy doesn't know what a router is, and was asking me for help trying to understand what the AI was telling him, and it was the most basic shit.

When the normies are trying to invest in AI, they're the last to invest and know to throw money at it. That was a big signal to me that the bubble is about to pop. Money is running out and the boomers are trying to get in on it.

[–] Bahnd@lemmy.world 81 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Exactly this. If you hear people talking about investments around the Thanksgiving table, its time to bail. All the smart people got in months ago and have left, they are just looking for bag holders now.

[–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Lmao, I think all the smart people avoided investing in AI in the first place 😂

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[–] i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca 41 points 5 days ago

Why would someone ask a person to explain an AI response they didn’t understand? Like, you’ve already offloaded the most important part from a human brain (getting a fucking answer)… Why wouldn’t you at least then ASK THE AI TO REPHRASE AND SUMMARIZE the response you didn’t understand? That’s the thing it’s actually good at doing ffs.

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[–] JustAnotherPodunk@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago (4 children)

He's predicted around sixteen market crashes so far by my count. The dude got lucky once and has been riding the fame ever since. I'm not necessarily disagreeing that this whole thing will crash, but timing is the important part and he keeps missing it. I'll not be making any financial decisions on his recommended timeline anytime soon. He may as well be Dave Ramsay imo.

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[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 33 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

It's a safe bet.

The bubble will burst, that's our boom-bust cycle. I think we're at the point where it is always a few bad decisions away.

I'm actually impressed that it's still going

Coincidentally, The FED was made to stop boom-bust cycles before WWI. It's never, ever worked, and it will never start working.

[–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

"the market cam remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent"

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Yeah the fed did a great job preventing the Great Depression lmao. You know what really stops boom/bust ? Taxing the wealthy and holding them accountable for their crimes. Also all those pesky monopoly regulations, post Great Depression regulations like glass stegal and other regulations that have been systematically dismantled in the last 40 years.

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[–] raspirate@lemmy.world 58 points 5 days ago (22 children)

The AI bubble will "burst" as soon as they figure out how to inflict all the damage onto regular working people. The housing bubble bursting is what enabled the ownership class to kick a bunch of working people out of their homes and then buy up all the recently vacated real estate for cheap. Nothing about the damage that the rich did to our economy caused any of them to face any actual consequences.

The promise of AI was that it would replace all the workers, but it's not doing that fast enough and it's beginning to look like it never will. We've been hearing that the AI bubble will "burst any day now" for years at this point, but if it happened right now, the ownership class are the ones who would be left holding the bag, and that can't be allowed to happen. When they find a way to take it out of our hides, we'll see that suddenly the "invisible hand of the free market" will present a scenario such that the floodgates open and the bloodbath is finally allowed to proceed. I imagine that's why they started wrapping up so many pension funds and the like in AI investments.

[–] BionicBeaver3000@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago (4 children)

The "invisible hand of the market" is such a fascinating myth, because it frames the results of capitalist endeavors as inevitable and almost holy - but as soon as the sufficiently wealthy and well-connected suffer a setback, then "government bailouts" are granted.

The invisible hand is actually very visible of you dare to look close enough.

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[–] NotAnOtter@lemmus.org 30 points 5 days ago (3 children)

He’s been saying this for 4 years

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 21 points 5 days ago

But he'll be right everyday after it happens

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[–] Kcap@lemmy.world 81 points 5 days ago (15 children)

I own a beer bar, and we work with some friends who have a catering business that does pop ups on our patio. They've been using AI to generate flyers and then tag us to have us share them to our larger audience. I stopped doing it because they look like trash, get low engagement, and are off brand for our art-inspired space. They got upset with me that we weren't helping promote, and I explained my position on their AI flyers, and they sent a very lengthy email back about how AI is being utilized by small businesses in ways that we're still scratching the surface to understand its value. I popped the email into chatgpt and asked if it wrote that email and it said it did, lol. Now I have more work on my hands to design their flyers for them, but it's worth it.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 80 points 5 days ago (6 children)

it's so bizarre to me that people who work with food don't realize that the ai trash is producing images that are REVOLTING, do not look like food, and actively deter people from their products.

you'd be better off with a half lit shitty polaroid of actual food than putting that trash on your branding, so much of it is nightmare fuel

[–] Kcap@lemmy.world 27 points 5 days ago

You're definitely right, the food looks so phony. The thing that's wild is half the time they make a flyer, there's only bricks of yellow text on a black background that's too much info to read. I'm visiting San Francisco right now and saw a pizza shop last night that their entire menu was AI garbage and was so shocked how prevalent it's become.

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[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 31 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It’s always an “it’s inevitable” argument.

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 26 points 5 days ago (8 children)

I popped the email into chatgpt and asked if it wrote that email and it said it did, lol

It doesn't work that way tho

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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 58 points 5 days ago (3 children)

So I saw a few relevant newspieces:

~ Companies are now ceasing their mandate to workers to use AI to do things that used to be done without AI. They're now saying don't use AI just to use AI. They're trying to reduce their token purchases.

~ The estimation now for AI use cases is to reconsider if tokens cost ten times their current price. If the use case is still worth it, then that use case will likely survive the bubble. If it's not worth it, it's time to hire back employees.

~ The hyperscale AI industry will have to make $6 trillion annually to break even. Amazon makes $2 trillion by selling people material stuff. Walmart is similar. There may not be a market for $6 trillion in tokens every year, even from government projects. Also, it's a bad sign if government projects are propping up the whole stock market.

~ China is mostly turning to a software AI model which does home and small business AI tasks fairly well without buying compute from a hyperscaler. You get a gaming machine, get open source AI software and a dozen terabytes of training data, and you should be able to create slop, vibe code or fix the grammar and style of your report. Also, hyperscale models are opinionated and don't like certain topics. Home-grown AI doesn't have those objections.

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[–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 27 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

The thing is the collapse is like a random chance every week/day. At some point some human being will decide fuckem im not working all weekend to bail them out again and that's when the crash will happen. That's literally what happened in 2008, bear sterns and Lehman brothers for decades just rolled over their debt until one day the banks were just like yeah nah we had enough go ask the govt for help and that was the crash. It easily could have happened months earlier or months later, some bank execs were just in a room and finally decided they wanted to get off the ride one and that was the day it crashed. Just human emotion at that point if it would have happened the prior month or following month instead.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 23 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Exactly this. The entire market is held together by people who are willing to bend over backwards to keep it working. And all it takes is two or three of those to decide “enough is enough” at the same time, and suddenly all of the market’s sins are laid bare. And at that point, the investors panic and everything snowballs.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Unemployment benefits in the USA? LOL! It's gonna be a real shitshow when the bubble bursts.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

Unemployment benefits in California are $450/week max. The average rent for a one bedroom apartment in California ranges between $2,100 and $2,460 per month, depending on the source and specific metro market.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 61 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I'd probably have better luck shorting stocks if I could trigger a (rightful) panic like this guy can.

[–] Bustedknuckles@lemmy.world 40 points 6 days ago (6 children)

I've come to realize that I was assuming that there was a limit somewhere to "the market staying irrational". I'm not so sure anymore

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 35 points 6 days ago (9 children)

You could argue that a heavily debt-based business that requires years and years of more debt before becoming profitable would respond to rising interest rates quite negatively, but, yeah, the whole thing is already enitrely irrational.

I'm keeping some popcorn in reserve for OpenAI's IPO.

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[–] Pratai@piefed.ca 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Just like the housing bubble, right?

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 35 points 5 days ago (2 children)

OpenAI had their little failure of a presentation recently, and they're introducing a "fast response" tier for 6x the current subscription cost. This is their attempt to get people used to higher pricing. They are bleeding money, and they will need to raise prices sooner than later to start attempting to make it back.

Once they do, a good chunk of their customers will simply stop paying, forcing the AI companies to further raise prices, causing more customers to leave, etc.

AI companies are trying (and failing) to be indispensable, and they need that to have any hope of survival. It's only a matter of time before they collapse, and only then might we see what's actually beneficial about machine learning.

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 36 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I saw a meme recently- WinRAR is more profitable than OpenAI. Kind of funny to think about

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[–] Gpennyhigh@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Mr. Money Mustache's latest post is about this and I hope is right. Basically he thinks it will not destroy retirement, viewing market panic as a recurring historical pattern driven by fear rather than fundamental economic ruin. Instead of reacting to macroeconomic anxiety, he emphasizes that true wealth stems from human productivity and resilience, suggesting individuals ignore the news cycle and focus on personal financial habits. Also recaps the basics so a great reatd. We can do it one step at a time to increase freedom!

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