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Neurodivergence

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[–] ranandtoldthat@beehaw.org 34 points 3 days ago

This article really misses the point. I fundamentally disagree with the conclusion and think it's actively harmful to neurodivergent people.

They're criticizing academic use of the words "neurodivergent" and "neurodiversity" and effectively demanding that all academic work rigorously categorize people into pre-existing diagnoses. They point to disagreement on what terms mean as a reason to not use the terms. But that's precisely why we need to use the terms, why we need academics studying these things in context.

Remember, it was only 13 years ago that Aspbergers and PPD-NOS were grouped in with Autism Spectrum Disorder. And ADHD & Autism were finally allowed as co-diagnoses. Yes that's right, before 2013 you could not be diagnosed with both ADHD & Autism!

Ultimately, here's the problem. We weren't "done" figuring out neurodivergent diagnoses prior to 2013, we weren't done in 2013, and we aren't done now. Neurodivergence isn't as clear and as clean as these authors seem to think. The existing diagnoses can be very helpful to people, but they also fail a lot of people, and can lead to under- or mis-diagnosis. We need sociologists, neuroscientists, psychologists, and other scholars studying this from many angles.

Maybe one day we'll get to the point where we don't need medical diagnoses for neurodivergent people of all ages to have their needs met, but I don't think we get closer to that day with rigid categorization and unchanging definitions.

[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

tl;dr - This term that folk use to talk about their experience in a way that prioritises lived experience over medicalisation is problematic because it doesn't talk about their experiences through the lens of medicalisation

I was diagnosed in my 30s, after my kid got diagnosed. I didn't magically become neurodiverse when I got a diagnosis, and it didn't change my life in any meaningful way, yet the authors of that article would claim that there is some fundamental difference between the version of me that didn't have a diagnosis and the version of me that does

[–] kodevade@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Whilist, I haven't read the article. The only thing diagnosis helps with is "being aware" sometimes being aware helps.

I hate "whilst" like others hate "moist", but "whilist" is far worse. 🤢

[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It actually set me back quite a bit for a while. I'd lived my life telling myself that I could do the things i struggled to do if i was serious about it. My diagnosis forced me to accept that I couldn't do the things though, and no amount of 'getting serious " would make my ADHD go away. And so, for the first time in my life, I felt broken, like there was an inherent fault with me that could never be solved or fixed. I got through that eventually, but it was really rough for a while, precisely because it forced me to be aware of something I'd been actively avoiding being aware of...

[–] punker_wanze@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

In short: I wouldn't consider neurodivers/neurodivergent a medical term, but a political one. So for me it doesn't make sense to link it with specific diagnosis but rather with specific types of marginalization.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 3 days ago

adding to this, i'd say it's actually a generally more useful term precisely because it's not medical.
Medical diagnoses have all these maddening arbitrary qualifications like needing to display 7 of 9 symptoms and whatnot, which means that if you only have 6 symptoms then you can eat shit and don't get proper help for the struggles you may face.

Meanwhile if you have neurodivergent traits that noticably affect you, then you're neurodivergent. Bam. Done. It's the same kind of term as "handicapped"/"disabled", you clearly know it when you see it and there isn't much to argue about beyond what the person in question feels comfortable being labelled as.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 4 points 3 days ago

I feel like neurotypical hasn't been well defined, which is creating this problem. I also feel like neurotypical hasn't been well defined is because it probably isn't as typical as people think.

[–] grey_maniac@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I tend to think of neurotypical as the slur. Insensitive, out of touch, ambiguous communicators with low empathy and a high tendency to conform and a low ability to perceive patterns, sensory signals, and systemic effects.

[–] Vodulas@beehaw.org 4 points 2 days ago

I've never heard it used that way. I see it used more like cis and trans. Just a descriptor

[–] Kwakigra@beehaw.org 1 points 3 days ago

Also, moral flexibility which depends on being observed.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 4 points 3 days ago

I’m willing to overlook generalizations when the person making them is showing a good faith effort to learn.

Nothing kills budding interest faster than being constantly scolded for insignificant mistakes. See also: teachers who hate kids.