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To each their own, but I find this decision really misguided.

It's her money, not mine, so whatever, but l do not expect her to turn a profit in, rather the opposite.

In my view, the cross section of "IfR" users and people willing to subscribe monthly is rather small (especially if the money mostly goes to reddit - assuming I could afford it, I, for instance, would rather fund an open system like Lemmy).

And if Apollo's dev Christian Selig decided that it wasn't worth it with an already established paying user base, who already has a strong culture of subscriptions and exaggerated pricings, and one of the highest volume of users, at what probably was the peak usage of the platform; I don't see how a small app like IfR can survive.

That, or Christian made a pretty expensive mistake...

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[–] jarfil@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Infinity for Reddit is OpenSource: https://github.com/Docile-Alligator/Infinity-For-Reddit

Apparently Reddit doesn't allow the original developer to publish the app with a field for a user API key... but there are tutorials on what to modify to get it to work, and there might be forks out there with the required fields baked in.

[–] 7heo@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
[–] 640kb@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

That, or Christian made a pretty expensive mistake...

I wouldn't put a lot pass /u/spez, including offering special deals on API pricing. Especially if he thinks it would make Christian Selig look bad.

It's precisely the kind of thing a lying, gaslighting and vindictive /u/spez would do.

[–] ltt@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Subscription with less features (no nsfw). That's a no from me. I will not be using reddit on mobile.

[–] 7heo@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (8 children)
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[–] Rogue1633@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm generally willing to pay for a service (I donate to Open Source Projects I regularly use) because of course there are server costs, development costs, etc. But in this case and after all that Reddit has done to its user base it would be a very bad signal to give them money for it... I like Infinity for reddit and would love to have an Infinity for Lemmy

[–] 7heo@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
[–] Pechente@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The other point for me is that reddit has been getting shittier long before the API change. Forcing you to use their crappy app when you just clicked a link on mobile, all this weird avatar and award stuff. The weird chat that got bolted onto their message system, yet keeping the two seperate?

There's no way I will pay for that.

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[–] gfrewqpoiu@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And even with that subscription, you still get locked out of any post or subreddit that is marked NSFW, which will now be even more since subreddits are still protesting the changes.

[–] 7heo@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)
[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes and they're already blocking mobile web access to most porn subreddit. Only from their app, for "safety" 😉

[–] 7heo@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Ever since the first pricing announcement, they said they’d lock out NSFW. Originally they said it would just be porn, but when asked how the API would differentiate different types of NSFW Reddit never replied.

When mods using 3PA asked how they were supposed to remove NSFW posts on non-NSFW subreddits, the Reddit reply was the posters shouldn’t be doing that. Yeah.

[–] ira@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Right now nobody even knows which ones will be blocked or not because it's hardly visible at the moment. It's going to be an absolute clusterfuck once people start realizing their subreddits are improperly categorized as NSFW and are completely blocked from the API.

If it's the same as the mobile website, then new/small subreddits are blocked too for being "unreviewed".

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[–] gigachad@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

cross section of "IfR" users and people willing to subscribe monthly is rather small

Absolutely. I used Infinity for years now because it's open source and on F-Droid. I used it to get away from Google and the Reddit App. Donating for Infinity's developer? Sure thing. Paying money only to finance reddits API policy? For sure not.

[–] OtakuAltair@vlemmy.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't think most users will understand where their money is actually going...

[–] 7heo@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Which is going to be even better of an experience for IfR's dev: "why is your app so expensive?", "We pay SO MUCH and still have bugs...", "Hey, with what I pay you, I sure would expect the feature I requested to be implemented already". Oh boy, what fun. My only regret is that this probably isn't going to be public, because I can definitely afford popcorn. 🙃

[–] gylotip@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Someone should tell the developer to not do that. They should just shut down their app.

[–] OrkneyKomodo@latte.isnot.coffee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's 'adapt or die' at the moment for 3rd party Reddit apps. I was kind of hoping that the developer would pivot to Lemmy or add Lemmy functionality to the app. Infinity was my go-to app before the apocalypse.

[–] 7heo@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Same, and that's why I really am disappointed. But hey, someone else is apparently trying to make an "Infinity for Reddit" inspired app for Lemmy. It's apparently going to be called "Beyond". Hopefully, "Beyond for Lemmy". 😉

[–] fancyError@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I think the best thing to do if you want to continue using Infinity would be to just compile your own APK with your own API key.

I've never used android studio before but didnt take me very long to work out how, and it all seems to be working.

You only need to change a couple of settings and about 3 lines of code.

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[–] help@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

It's 100% clear that Reddit is trying to kill off third party apps completely so that they can facefuck you with ads and other garbage. The Apollo dev saw the writing on the wall. I can't blame other app devs for trying to squeeze a bit more livelihood out of this, but hopefully they've realized that they need to move on asap. In the end, it's a great reminder to not build your business on someone else's platform, even if they're "cool".

[–] darknavi@vlemmy.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Christian already had paid subscriptions he'd have to contend with. A much harder problem.

[–] chiisana@lemmy.chiisana.net 1 points 2 years ago

Apollo users tends to browse and interact with Reddit more than other platforms, too, so the per user cost is much higher.

[–] jmsw22@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Are there price details yet? Christian was talking about $5 still not breaking even so I’d be interested to see where they’ve landed.

[–] Noxvento@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I read that it should be between 10-15 dollars. It's way too expensive, it's a shame.

[–] jmsw22@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yikes. That’s more than most streaming services. No one is paying that for Reddit access

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