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Hello everyone,

i am writing this from my old blackberry key 2 which is getting around 8 years now, has android 8.1. i need a successor phone.

I need a qwertz keyboard, qwerty is ok too.

So i was happy when they announced the clicks communicator and now there is a second option, the minimal phone 2. Both will come out in december 2026 if everything goes according to plan.

The unihertz titan 2 elite is out there too, but i prefer to have the option to have an open bootloader, so the titan is out of my scope....

I like that the minimal has its own android and says: its your device, of course it has an open bootloader...

But its around 100€ more money...

How would you decide?

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[–] Ilandar@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

I assume the keyboard is the most important part for you, considering you are holding on to such an old BlackBerry. The Communicator design looks way better for typing, much more stable and comfortable with its thicker, curved back. The Minimal Phone 2 may look nicer but being thin and flat is not good when you need to press keys.

Both companies have their issues, but from what I know about them I find Clicks to be a little more trustworthy. They've been developing hardware, albeit not phones, for a while now and seem reasonably stable. I've only heard positive reviews of their keyboards. Minimal is a small company and the fact they've made such a radical departure from their first phone doesn't fill me with much confidence, particularly since it had a lot of issues. It feels a bit like they're abandoning their Gen 1 customers.

[–] keyez@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I am interested in both and paid the $200 reservation for a clicks communicator a couple of months ago. The minimal phone will most likely have better specs and I like they state the bootloader is fully unlocked without question. To me the Communicator looks better designed for my use cases with the ergonomics, plastic and textured back and the bumper case they have designed for it are all what I would pick if they asked me what I would want for a modern blackberry style device. The Communicator has magsafe and a 3.5mm jack which I also really want. It runs full android and I already use Niagara launcher on my current device so it lines up almost perfectly with my use cases. The Communicator is further behind schedule it seems and they only have 1 video of a working device so it you're worried about fulfilment the minimal phone is further along and have already shipped devices in the past.

[–] Feddinat0r@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah maybe i switch over to the minimal.

The niagara launcher is great, i am using that on my key2 too. But the thing is with commands... Thats great, that is something niagara sure will have soon too.

I am happy that there are now too phones. But in my opinion the clicks team is more influencer and design team and although its a great design i am not happy with their initial wording as a second phone...

[–] keyez@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Fair, that is how they're planning to use it because they're enthusiasts and have several phones around them but according to them it's a full android OS and isn't lacking anything just the him screen set to Niagara which you can also change. This is according to Q/As they have answered so all there is reports that are unconfirmed. I have a 2 year old Nothing Phone2 that still runs fine so planning to use that as my secondary phone to the Communicator. That all remains to be seen but I am fine risking it with the Communicator to see how it turns out.

[–] sbeak@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

The Clicks is plastic fantastic while the Minimal Phone 2 is metal (+ glass?). Weight is not an issue, the MP2 is only 8g lighter, but it might feel a bit denser due to the smaller size.

The screen on the Clicks is a bit rounded compared to the flat one on the MP2.

You also have a voice key on the Clicks, which could be a pro or con depending on how much you'll use it and, more importantly, how often it will be accidentally pressed. The MP2 has a switch that can be reprogrammed, which seems really useful!

The cameras look similar on both devices, but you do have a cutout on the Clicks while the MP2 has a Sony Xperia style forehead (which should also mean better speaker quality?)

The fingerprint sensor is on the spacebar on the Clicks, but on the MP2 it's on the side. I personally prefer on the side button, but either work.

The MP2 has a notification LED that can be configured per-app!!!

As for I/O, They both have 3.5mm jacks, hooray!! The MP2 does not have microSD card slots (they are transparent about this), but the Clicks does. The MP2 supports USB3 (5Gbps) and DP over USB-C, while I can't find the specs of the port on the Clicks website (so I'm assuming it is USB2, please correct me if it was mentioned in a promotional video).

They both have a squareish aspect ratio (the MP2 is 40 pixels taller, but basically identical) and the software looks a bit different: Niagara Launcher on the Clicks and a custom solution on the MP2 that looks a bit nicer, both run full Android though.

The MP2, as you have said, is more open with an unlockable bootloader, while the Clicks makes no mention of this. Both work with any carrier.

They both use the same Dimensity 8300 chip, they both run recent Android, 12GB of RAM, etc., so there shouldn't be significant performance differences

I would rather go with the MP2 if I did need the physical keyboard, it looks to be more open and has a nicer build. USB3 + DP over USB-C, the programmable switch, and notification LED is also really important for me. The storage is not expandable on the MP2 though, but realistically you're not going to be using much on this kind of device I feel like (goes up to a 512GB config if you need it)

You also have the fact that the Minimal Phone is in its second generation, while this is Clicks' first device, so support might be a bit better. In both cases though, they are relatively new companies, so keep that in mind. They both have a 1 year warranty.

I also feel like Clicks is a little shady, the website shows a "starting price" of $199 (when that's just the deposit, not the full price of $499), and it's very difficult to find some of the specs for the thing (it's not nearly as detailed as the MP2's kickstarter page). You also have the whole supported by an influencer marketing that doesn't do it any favours. Neither is particularly great in terms of reputation, but Minimal seems more transparent than Clicks in my opinion.

[–] Feddinat0r@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well,

thank you for your big response.

It really comes a little bit down to:

Do you want a influencer secondary phone, or a more tech oriented minimalistic phone.

And i believe both phones will be good. One difference is also, the clicks has qi2 and the minimal has qi1. I am used to the fingerprint sensor on the spacebar and a led light, but that doesnt mean that the clicks phone is the wrong approach.

The thing, that gets me with the minimal is just: its your device, of course its unlocked bootloader.

And clicks: the bootloader will be unlockable if you contact the manufacturer.

As i am doing almost everything with my keyboard, the minimal is the better use, the commands is great feature, which will hopefully just add entrys not just google calender but also in something like fossify calendar....

I think i will refund my clicks order and get the minimal, even if its 100dollar more expensive.

[–] sbeak@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

Wish you the best of luck then, mate!

[–] sbeak@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

You might want to look at the Minimal Phone 1 too, since it has an e-ink display and is bit cheaper too, esp. with the newer device coming in

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

What are your priorities?

I'd lay out a spreadsheet with the different specs/features so you can see them side-by-side. Highlight important features.

Then differences will stand out.

I don't know enough about either, but have been watching them with interest as I miss a real keyboard. Not sure I want to trade screen for it, but I did carry a Palm Treo and well, really, the screen now is smaller and wonky whenever a keyboard is up anyway.

[–] Feddinat0r@feddit.org 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well they are both nice. Naja the clicks has more marketing and blin blin attitude, the minimal phone more a techy, minimal approach.

The one has a bigger battery, the other one has "android minimal" whatever that is...

Its difficult, that is why i am coming here :)

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I do suspect Clicks has a better keyboard, and Minimal is targeting an Apple aesthetic.

A spreadsheet will really help - I've been surprised at what became important when doing this. Weight can be significant, as can brightness. I'd really like to see how bright either is.

Minimal looks like it may use a glass back. Eww. That means heavier and absolutely requires a case, which means more weight (and bulk).

Communicator looks like it has a textured back and a shape that'll be easier to handle.

Minimal's website is all about slick - it doesn't eve have any specs - and that really turns me off. Clicks has been open from the start about their goals, and keeping us informed.

[–] sbeak@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It is likely a glass back, since it supports wireless charging (a big no no for metal backs)

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe -1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Plastic, why can't we have plastic phones?

I have an entry-level Moto that's all plastic. So light. Bounces when dropped. Plastic back texture makes it easy to grip.

My Samsung S4 with a plastic back had wireless charging in 2017!

I want wireless charging to work, but frankly it sucks. It's slow, it heats everything.