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On August 8, police arrived on the scene of Long Branch Lagoon Water Park in Dodge City, Kansas, to the sight of three self-described “bearded, burly men” who had been in the women’s bathroom and changing area. The manager of the municipally run property allegedly screamed and rushed children out the door.

The men knew this was likely. They didn’t agitate any of the women; they didn’t remove their clothes or make crass comments. They simply used the gendered spaces that the state of Kansas requires them to use by law, because these men are transgender.

“Supporters of SB244, including Attorney General Kris Kobach and Senate Majority Leader Ty Masterson, billed it as a way to keep men out of women’s spaces; it clearly requires some men to enter women’s spaces,” a press release sent to news outlets reads. So, these men took action—using malicious compliance to prove their point.

“Segregating people by suspected genitalia does nothing to improve public safety; it does quite the opposite by opening Kansans up to sexual harassment and discrimination. At no point should anyone be asking anyone else what genitals they have in public.”

The men, dressed in yellow “Compliance Crew” shirts, were part of a small group of trans-masculine Kansans who used the women’s room at facilities across the state that day in a coordinated action. They were also spotted at a zoo, a library, a museum, and other parks. They were in Emporia, Great Bend, Garden City, and Dodge City. At the library, at least one patron complained; at other places, the men used the bathroom and received dirty looks, and simply left the space without confrontation.

But at Long Branch Lagoon, members of the Kansas Compliance Crew resorted to having to describe their genitals to police in order to resolve the matter and avoid arrest.

“The men had a discussion with the manager and police and explained the situation, including uncomfortable descriptions of their bodies,” the press release said. Furthermore, both the manager and the police reportedly said “they had never heard of SB244 nor been notified by any government entity of its passage.”

“I could easily continue using the men’s restroom under the radar,” said Ray Vieux, who participated as one of the demonstrators.

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[–] Bootyhole@lemmus.org 33 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

A friend of mine is a lesbian. She identifies fully as female. She does not want to be a man at all. She is a woman who wears somewhat men's type clothing for the comfort. Her face is extremely feminine. She does not try to present as a man at all.

She's had numerous issues going to the bathroom. One time male employees of the bar went into the women's loo and opened the stall she was in, without identifying themselves or saying anything... while she was changing her pad. I was at the mirror when it happened and tried to stop them. I was physically pushed away and told to stfu.

These MEN walked in on her while she was cleaning her period. It's clear she's female at this point, but they didn't Apologize and close the stall door. They stood there and yelled at her while she was trying to put a new pad on without pulling her panties up, because it would stain them.

They didn't Apologize. I asked them to. She asked them to. They demanded to see her ID saying she was female before they'd close the stall door. I ended up going out of the bathroom and calling 911 to say that 3 men sexually harassed a woman in a stall while she was cleaning her period. They said "well, we thought she was a man so it's ok". But she was doing nothing to anyone.

The owner tried giving us a $200 bar tab, but I told her to refuse because if legal issues came from it, it would be like accepting the pay out.

She still has mental stress issues when she goes out and has to use the bathroom, especially while on her period. We only go to places where people know her or places that have unisex bathrooms.

These maga a holes wanted to "protect women" by forcing a woman to change her pad in front of them. Even if they thought she was a man, was that the right move? Even if she was a man, would that have been the right move? I was in that bathroom with her. I'm extremely feminine. So, even if my friend Bri was trans ... these dudes were willing to bust in the women's room aggressively on someone they knew was definitely a woman.

It's not about protecting children. They just want to fight people and have a reason to "legally" and aggressively force themselves into women's bathrooms.

I think back on that day a lot. I should have immediately viewed these men as the threat they genuinely were and pulled either my canister of cs gas or my lifecard (single Action .22) but I was in shock. And I only had a single action on me. I'm a tall woman. If I defended us, both my friend and I would probably be dead right now. And those guys would have gotten probation for killing us.

Is not about protecting women or kids. Bc those same people think every woman who has reported a sexual assault are "false allegations ruining a man's life" (false allegations are real. But they're very very very rare. )

You know, sometimes I don't realize how good it is around me (central bum fucked egypt) until I read about these experiences. I got a little food truck bazaar near me with the only permanent structure being a stage/wine bar/bathroom. There is only one bathroom, and it has a sign with the classic stick figures, and a half half mix of the two, and an alien that reads "whatever, just wash your hands."

I also see some pride flags in front of businesses downtown and no crazies making the local news by tearing them down.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah if anything these laws gave men the justification to angrily and violently enter women's restrooms. And that's the purpose of them, it's just that shockingly often these men do that against someone they weren't intended to target doing so.

[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 53 points 2 days ago (9 children)

And you think this would be easily resolved with well designed unisex bathrooms where each stall is completely private.

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[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 19 points 2 days ago (4 children)

where each stall is completely private.

But then what if people do the drugs!??!?!?!

Gotta have those stall gaps to make sure nobody ever gets high.

[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Hey as long as people are washing their hands then it dont matter to me.

So often the person next to me walks out without a rinse even lmao

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Well in that case you can have the trashy gay bar version of unisex bathrooms. Very little privacy, but people are still doing drugs among other things

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[–] moondoggie@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

Ally McBeal’s law firm had one like that almost 30 years ago. You’d think there would have been more of them popping up, at least in law firms.

[–] auzy1@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Thats what they did at my climbing Gym (Urban Climb). They're full length cubicles and seem soundproof pretty much.

Gendered bathrooms only triggers homophobes in practice. If you had a unisex bathroom, they wouldn't even notice. And on facebook at least, it always seems to be the people who seem highly abusive, who you wouldn't want near your kids anyway who make a big deal about it.

At concerts here in Australia, nrgptr switching to unisex, it was fairly common for many women to line up for the mens bathrooms (as they they were often less busy)

If your first instinct is that "they're going to rape your kids", the problem is you

I love this. The one time I used a gender neutral bathroom I was annoyed because there were no urinals. Meaning I had to wait for the slower sitting pissers.

95% of the time I'm using a public restroom it's to drain the main vein in the piss trough and move on.

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[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 81 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (22 children)

If I were in charge bathrooms would be single rooms with nothing but a toilet.

Handwash sink is outside.

There is a person who maintains the facilities and offers a mint candy to only people who wash their hands.

If were gonna police anything in the bathrooms it should be hand washing.

[–] bl4ckp1xx13@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 2 days ago

In my secondary school, it was a small school as far as the building went, so to save space they operated exclusively unisex toilets.

The "bathrooms" were simply open-plan onto the main corridors, with sinks on one side, and maybe 15 individual cubicles on the other. There were no urinals, no gendered spaces, once outside the cubicle you'd be in view of anyone walking through the corridor. There were 4 stories including the ground floor, with these unisex toilets on levels 1 and 3.

Never did anything happen, never heard any complaints from anyone about them, it was, dare I say, perfect.

Petition for the abolishment of traditional gendered spaces, individual cubicles is all we need.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I like it, but I would put a urinal in as well. Not because as a male I would appreciate that more, but as a male, I've seen what other savages do to the toilet seat when they have to hit a stationary target from a couple feet away. I don't want to punish sitters with that.

[–] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Do urinals tend to stink more?

I feel like people flush less because after the pee drains out you can't see it any more, despite it still being there in the trap.

Some autoflush periodically or when you open the door.

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[–] Waterpumpee@lemmus.org 6 points 2 days ago (13 children)

Nah put handwash inside stalls pls. Saved my life at new job where i got dog poo on my shoes and could clean it privately.

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a mint candy to only people who wash their hands.

It all goes back to pavlov

[–] shininghero@pawb.social 6 points 2 days ago

Same, but I'd also offer a second mint to folks who show initiative and restock the toilet paper when it runs low.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 70 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Beginning to suspect these laws exist to criminals the existence of transgender people.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 20 points 2 days ago

Not just transgender -- anybody who doesn't quite conform to gender norms.

A cis man who looks too feminine or a cis woman who looks too masculine will also be a victim of these laws, because people 'suspect' them of being trans.

It ultimately boils down to 'conservatives' trying to enforce gender norms, as they always have: at the point of a gun.

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (10 children)

I can kind of understand why places like women's domestic violence shelters and women's prisons need a legal definition of "woman" in order to define who is allowed in them (and have no opinion on what it should be). Places where there is actual physical or logistical infrastructure in place to make sure men don't enter them…

But bathrooms? Someone wanting to commit sex crimes (or similar) against women in bathrooms is just going to walk into them and do exactly that, they aren't going to change their legal gender just to do that because that doesn't make it either easier or harder to physically get in there.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I can kind of understand why places like women’s domestic violence shelters and women’s prisons need a legal definition of “woman” in order to define who is allowed in them

I've found that a lot of these policies are a legacy of affirmative action in response to the historic gulf in wealth between women and men.

They don't exist to keep men out. They exist to give women in abusive relationships a place to go without facing homelessness.

One might argue that gay men and trans-people can find themselves in exactly the same kind of relationships, for exactly the same reasons.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah as a trans woman if I were in a DV situation I wouldn't even think I could go to a shelter. To my knowledge when we flee such situations we generally rely on friends (we're less likely to have family we can stay with).

Though tbh in the modern day we need shelters that can accommodate anyone, because anyone can be victims of financial abuse alongside DV. Additionally the problems associate with abusive men entering a shelter are still faced by women fleeing DV by a female partner.

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[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 days ago

They do, its being pushed in the UK a fair bit lately.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I was waiting for this to happen.
Props to the brave boys for sticking their necks out, when no one would have cared of the uses the men's room.

Then again, no one cares what goes on in there :'(

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[–] ReluctantZen@feddit.nl 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

So, these men took action—using malicious compliance to prove their point.

Is it malicious compliance? They went to the restroom they were told to go to. It's more a demonstration of what Kansas law actually means.

[–] heliotrope@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

It is. They are complying with the law to the letter with the sole aim of pissing off the lawmakers, and succeeding.

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Fucking Kings!

[–] fritobugger2017@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

I too enjoy a bit of malicious compliance.

Allies and the community never really talk about how trans masculine people in general get targeted. Apparently we aren't worth mentioning until it's too late

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