I've been following Roger for a while, and I agree with most of what he's saying in theory. In spirit I'm a revolutionist, but in practice I'm probably more of a reformist. The scale of the change we need is so massive that there will never be a critical mass of people to make the changes needed. That just means that smaller groups will need to have bigger effects, and even though we're aiming for complete change, even if we only get 50% of the way there that's still much better than it is now.
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It's often easier to topple regimes than to enact significant reforms to them. The existing burearcracy/way of economic organizing has inertia: as long as it exists it will keep pushing back towards the status quo ante, and it will keep om doing terrible things where-ever the reformists don't care enough to push for more.
You can see this with social liberalism - the reformist alternative to socialist revolution, where capitalism kept on destroying the planet and exploiting non-citizens, but hey, citizens got public services and pensions and labor regulations. Until the reformists drank the liberal kool-aid stopped being constantly vigilant, so all those privileges are getting rescinded.
It is easier to imagine the end of capitalism than to imagine humanity surviving despite capitalism.
Again, that sounds great in a random comment online, but take that line of thinking to ground.
What does that actually look like? It will inevitably be violent. Historically, based on every revolution or attempt at revolution, the end result is worse than the starting point. The most dangerous, violent, charismatic person makes it to the top and they become a dictator.
There's no mechanism to ensure we actually end up in the desired point. Too many variables that are unaccounted for, even in Halam's like 40-part lecture series. It all sounds great but it's not realistic.
Historically, based on every revolution or attempt at revolution, the end result is worse than the starting point. The most dangerous, violent, charismatic person makes it to the top and they become a dictator.
This is only the case for revolutions with authoritarian marxist-leninists at the helm, which do exactly as you describe without fail.
However, anarchist revolutions which are built upon decentralizing power as much as possible so that there can be no centralized leadership from which dictatorship sprouts, has shown the opposite; that it can result in a long-term egalitarian society where there is no charismatic dictator or vanguard. This was demonstrated most clearly with the Spanish Anarchists during the Spanish Civil War, who documented how they organized in a horizontal, egalitarian way.
Rojava in northern Syria and the Chiapa Zapatista movement in Mexico (both inspired by Anarchist political theory) also demonstrate that an egalitarian society can function well for long periods without a decent into dictatorship.
Yeah I'm well aware of Rojava, Spain, and the Zapatistas. Think about the entire culture of the West, do you think anarchism would spread further than a few percent of the population?
Side note: if you're not already aware you'd probably like the Cool Zone Media podcast network (Behind the Bastards, Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff, It Could Happen Here, etc.)
Remaining within “the law”
The second new development is that 4 Billion Dead will not be involved in organising or acting in a way a regime sees as illegal. In the increasingly authoritarian contexts we face, direct action will most likely lead to the arrest and imprisonment of people in the organisation and force its closure. 4 Billion Dead as an organisation will therefore focus, for the time being, on training, the organising of the processions, and publicising the 4 billion death reality we face.
- the about section of 4billiondead.org
Okay, bets on how long it takes for what they're doing to be "seen as illegal" by the UK executive?
Millions have died already, billions more will.