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[–] MIDItheKID@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This literally happened to me today while driving

Me: Text wife Gemini: Texting wife, what would you like in the message? Me: Can you pop my lunch in the microwave? I am going to be home in 5 minutes. Gemini: While I can't put food in the microwave for you, I can set a reminder.

What the fuck?

Today was the first day I noticed Gemini instead of assistant, and from the other complaints here, I am not looking forward this. Assistant worked just fine.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago

Honestly I don't understand how Google is such a valuable company. They are absolutely useless for so much shit.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

It's really bad.

[–] SlimePirate@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 days ago

Breaking news, google spyware removed in favour of another google slop spyware

[–] kungfuratte@feddit.org 13 points 2 days ago
[–] ZephyrXero@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Can the Gemini assistant set reminders yet? Such a basic function of the old Google assistant and yet Gemini has failed every time I tried it in the past

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago

F: play Spotify (activated by multi button on headset)
A: Please unlock your phone yada yada yada

BRO! GUESS WHY I USED THE MULTI-BUTTON >:( I CAN'T USE MY HANDS TO UNLOCK IT AND PLAY MUSIC MANUALLY.

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Because it doesn't know what time is or how to measure it.

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[–] farmgineer@nord.pub 6 points 2 days ago

That's fine. Google devices have been disappearing from my life as well, so this will not be a long-term problem.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 54 points 3 days ago

Fuck everything about this: Gemini sucks!

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 29 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

OMFG.

Gemini is neat, but it SSUUUUUUUUCCCKKS at being a voice assistant.

It will frequently produce a fucking essay in response to being asked to turn the lights on or off.

I just gave it a go again, 30% of the time it pretends to do what you ask without actually doing it. 20% of the time it flat-out refuses while never failing to mention that I really should enable gemini activity tracking. 40% of the time is claims this functionality does not exist, even though it was given the ability to "ask assistant" to do things only it can do (like identify music by listening to it). 10% of the time it will successfully hand off to assistant, which will then instantly do as asked.

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The problem is Google is treating all those functions ("tool calling") as just any other response, they didn't even bother training the model to recognize and process the requests properly using the tools. They did the Google thing of just putting the function in and calling a day and forgetting about it.

So without proper reinforcement learning it responds with the same casual randomized answer-shaped sequence of words as ever, you're just lucky if the part of it that knows to look up the tool call instructions responds, and luckier if it does it right AND submit the tool call formatted right. If it forgets to look up it's tool call instructions, it might randomly tell you it can't do it because you got an answer from a part of the network trained on data from when there weren't models that could.

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[–] Lordran_Hollow@lemmy.world 41 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Well this fucking sucks. Gemini is complete garbage in Android Auto, I thought I was stuck with it until I discovered a couple weeks ago that I could choose to continue using the assistant.

Now it's being ripped from my hands again.

This is total ass. Fuck Gemini. Fuck AI. Fuck Google.

[–] RustySharp@programming.dev 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Gemini is complete garbage in Android Auto

It also can't read labels on gmaps. Can't read people's "nickname" field in contacts (there are so many Roberts). And can't access or write notes without also requiring access to my emails (hell no).

Those are the three things I use AA for, and it's objectively worse at every single one of them.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I couldn't get it to create a reminder for me when I tried the other day.

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Worse.

It will fucking lie and say it set a timer or reminder, and if you ask it "wtf" in response when it clearly didn't (if you notice), it'll fucking explain it's just roleplaying at being a voice assistant.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I have a Google Nest speaker in my kitchen and while cooking "Hey Google set a timer for 5 minutes" ... "I cannot do that at this time"

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[–] NekoKoneko@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If it makes you feel better, I'm sure someone in Google got the promotion they stop desperately needed.

[–] Lordran_Hollow@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Oh for sure. They can proudly tell their shareholders that every one is using Gemini now, which I'm sure they'll eat that up even though we're all being forced into it with no recourse.

[–] jcorvera@quokk.au 40 points 3 days ago (1 children)

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

Assistant was awesome. The voice isn't as punchable as Gemini's options.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 10 points 3 days ago

I took an online course sponsored by Google years ago, when AI was but a twinkle in tech bros' eyes, and one of the Gemini voices is 1000% the presenter of that course.

[–] switcheroo@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I use GA to spell shit for me because I have senior moments. It's just easier to click a button and say spell naseaous for me.

See? Fuck that word. Also fuck Google. For more reasons than just this.

[–] FoolishObserver@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Because it makes you feel sick, in so many words?

[–] VAK@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (5 children)

My grandmother used it for calling. She'd long press the home button and say 'Call Aliya' etc. It has stopped working last week, in both google assistant and gemini. If anyone knows an alternative, please let me know.

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[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 29 points 3 days ago

That sucks. At least it was useful unlike gemini.

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

What even is ownership?

Local-first for life.

[–] njordomir@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I degoogled (mostly) a while ago, but home assistant has a pretty configurable local voice assistant. If you have remote access to your server, I imagine you could cobble together a good keyword based personal assistant that sets alarms, turns lights on and off, and reads you an RSS newsfeed while you drink your morning coffee.

We're truly on the technological downslope now. First it was all about the user and making software accomplish a purpose, then it was all about the user as long as it was profitable, now it's fuck the user - be profitable.

[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

Personally I went out of my way to put physical buttons around my house so I can use Home Assistant automations without talking. It has the added bonus that guests can just turn the lights on and off without a tutorial.

[–] Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I had everything either automated or timed but the ladies wanted a physical button in the bathroom. Ok I put one in, then they kept leaving the light on so I had to put in a 15 min timer. Buttons have their places. I also prefer not talking to it.

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[–] Babalugats@feddit.uk 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The timing is crazy, that's around the same time that Google and Android is expected to start disappearing from thousands of phones.

[–] ChanchoManco@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago

To preserve our privacy? (insert Padmé and Anakin stare meme)

[–] gera@feddit.nu 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

It's already dead pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox

[–] stardreamer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Need a follow up on this, since I've always assumed that package is essential.

  1. Is this on a Pixel?
  2. What happens to the space where the search bar is on the launcher?
  3. Does it break anything else?
[–] gera@feddit.nu 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)
  1. Nah, I have a non-unlockable Xperia, otherwise I'd just flash custom firmware
  2. I don't remember the search bar, it disappears i guess. The circle button that used to summon assistant now does nothing
  3. Deleting this package is safe. Just don't delete system-related packages. Once I was cleaning up someone's Xiaomi and tried to delete its antivirus with adb. It was stuck in boot loop after that so i had to do hard reset.

I'm on graphene and I don't have it even with gsf and google play stuff installed

[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well that's not good. I use it to set alarms fairly often, and up until recently it used to work for navigation. I think me refusing the AI crap made "navigate to 123 main st" quit working.

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[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

It's a shame, now I'll never get to try it...

[–] lnxtx@sopuli.xyz 10 points 3 days ago

Never used it. Always first thing I disable

[–] DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 8 points 3 days ago
[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 days ago (3 children)

It was a convenient way to set a kitchen timer. I never used it for anything else but this is still gonna hurt.

[–] qupada@fedia.io 10 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Considering when I first upgraded to a phone that included it, Gemini was incapable of setting a timer, I do not have high hopes for this.

This is to say, when I told it "set a timer for X minutes" it produced a UI on the phone that suggested it understood I wanted a timer, but failed the critical step of actually setting the damn timer. I immediately switched back to assistant, as there's really no coming back from a fuck-up that comprehensive.

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