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[–] axum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 142 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 38 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

The entire e administration as well as ice should be put into camps after this is said and done.

[–] iltoroargento@startrek.website 33 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

I prefer high security jail, and trials to make Nuremberg blush.

[–] Trampampoline@sh.itjust.works 21 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

No socialism for fascists. They like the death penalty so much, I say 'oblige them', in no sweeter terms.

[–] iltoroargento@startrek.website 13 points 4 weeks ago

We really did not execute enough at Nuremberg. I agree that prison would be a waste with such crimes.

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago

They keep unironically saying it's "open season" of Dems and liberals, so I say let's flip it the fuck around.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I have bad news for how the Nuremberg trials generally wound up.

[–] iltoroargento@startrek.website 3 points 4 weeks ago

Agreed. We gotta do better this time.

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Honestly. Send them all to antarctica.

[–] gh0stcassette@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Put them all on a spacex starship and fly it into the sun. Livestream the entire months-long journey to the sun so we can watch them slowly go insane and turn against each other. 70% odds they don't even make it all the way to the sun😭

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[–] Trampampoline@sh.itjust.works 57 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

My ISP every few months:

"We can upgrade yo-

Does the upload speed upgrade too?

"Well, no- click

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 14 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

My favorite is Spectum’s “Gig” (I guess too many people can’t pronounce 1 Gbps) plan is like, significantly slower than their 600 Mbps or even their 400 Mbps like 80% of the time.

[–] moondoggie@lemmy.world 13 points 4 weeks ago

One guhbips

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 2 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Giga is the Spanish word, so they might just use it because it's more bilingual friendly

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[–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Well they makes me curious what the "upgrade" entails. 🤔 Have they ever told you?

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 17 points 4 weeks ago (15 children)

Faster download it's always faster download and never understand any circumstances upload.

I get 1gig down and 10megs up... On spectrum.

[–] Humanius@lemmy.world 19 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (3 children)

10 Mbps up in the year of our lord 2026?..
I swear to god, I'm not convinced the US is a first-world country.

[–] Trampampoline@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 weeks ago

I'm not convinced the US is a first-world country.

Neither are we

~ Americans

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[–] Dran_Arcana@lemmy.world 5 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Not to defend spectrum, but there is an actual reason for this besides malice.

Coax cable internet uses analog switching and routing between you and your ISPs first Ethernet hop. It's basically a series of unconfigurable hardware low-pass and high-pass filters to ensure that upload traffic and download traffic flow cleanly.

When cable internet started and these systems were installed in your neighborhood, a range of low-frequency (low-bandwidth) channels were selected for uploads, and a range of high-frequency (high-bandwidth) channels were selected for downloads, going off the assumption that more people wanted downloads than anything else.

Fast-forward to today, and the ISPs don't really have any choice but to sell you the asymmetry that they installed 20-30 years ago. The only way to redirect the flow and assignment of channels would be to rip out and replace all of those analog filters, and they're not going to do that because grandma isn't going to go without cable for 3 weeks. Grandma will call, get angry, and pick a new cable provider. Grandma is by far their most consistent and profitable customer.

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

ISPs don’t really have any choice but to sell you the asymmetry that they installed 20-30 years ago.

I think there is actually a choice in there somewhere.

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[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

They just run a new fiber line to every customer that says "I need symmetric speeds, please".

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

If you're willing to pay they probably will, but it's something that's generally very expensive, so not something they advertise. If you're serious about it, look into business offerings.

[–] Pieisawesome@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Paying the ISP to run a new fiber cable yourself is 10-50k.

The ISP can do this at a better price if they do a neighborhood all at once due to economies of scale.

The US government already paid the ISP to run fiber in like the 90s. They should give the money back with interest or lay the fucking fiber

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[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Wait, wouldn't you want 9 more down then? Who wants asymmetric speeds with faster upload than down?

[–] Ibuthyr@feddit.org 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

They're getting 10 MBit up, not 10 GBit

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 5 points 4 weeks ago

Oh fuck, that should be illegal

[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago

I remember how happy I was when I got 50mb upload... About 20 years ago?

[–] cynar@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago

I changed provider after they tried to tell me 1/4 Mbps was more than enough. It didn't even have packet shaping. As soon as Google photos tried to back up, the packet returns required to lead webpages started falling over. It was painful.

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[–] Adalast@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago

I had AT&T Gigabit symmetric fiber once and it was glorious.

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[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 48 points 4 weeks ago

Fuck any internet provider that hides fucking fees. If my bill suddenly goes up next month I know exactly what caused it and will act accordingly by not paying that bullshit fees.

[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 29 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Hey, that doesn't make any sense! In 2024, lemmy.ml assured us all that Biden hadn't made any improvements to America!

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

And Hexbear was singing Trump's praises. Let's all remember this fact: Tankies love Trump and hate Democrats, even if sometimes they claim otherwise that's just them putting the mask on.

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[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 23 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Internet in America has always been a ripoff.

[–] raman_klogius@ani.social 7 points 4 weeks ago

But... The efficiency of consolidation!! /$

[–] huquad@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 weeks ago

Especially when you consider how many subsidies the telecoms get

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 3 points 4 weeks ago

What would you expect in a 1st world country?

Gotta nationalize public utilities for that to be decent.

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 22 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Again, if they have the technology to correctly bill you for those fees, they have the technology to tell you what they are before they bill you for them. It's the same damn thing.

[–] ozymandias117@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Putting in the "fuck you" charge internally is easy.

Coming up with a convincing name on the bill is hard.

[–] Trampampoline@sh.itjust.works 20 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Looks like I'm aiming pringles can directional antennas at McDonalds again like the 00's.

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 12 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (7 children)

pringles can is too small, you need a can 8cm in diameter minimum. 400ml cans won't do but bigger ones, 800ml, 1200ml will work https://www.wikarekare.org/Antenna/WaveguideCan.html

[–] bigfish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 weeks ago

Old folgers coffee can it is.

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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 15 points 4 weeks ago

I can't really blame them. Counting all of that profit money takes a whole shitload of time and leaves very little room for value.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 4 weeks ago

This kind of shit is why the CFPB was and very much IS needed!

And also a classic case ofregulatory capture, of course.

[–] Sophocles@infosec.pub 9 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

If you ever get tired of ISP garbage, Calyx offers unlimited internet as long as you are in 4G/5G range. Your payment also goes to supporting a privacy rights group instead of down the corporate drain

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 6 points 4 weeks ago

This is actually pretty neat.

The case, settled ten years after it was filed, influenced how the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) can acquire personal information. Inspired by this, Merrill founded the Calyx Institute, a 501(c)(3) organization, to raise awareness about online privacy, surveillance, and accessibility through software development, research advocacy, and cross-sector partnerships.

https://calyx.org/about

[–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 8 points 4 weeks ago

long nightmare

That's just US of Corpokistan chasing EU...

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