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    also this insane hiring process

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    [–] DickFiasco@sh.itjust.works 94 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Ubuntu was my gateway into Linux, but man I'm glad I ditched it years ago.

    [–] yakko@feddit.uk 12 points 1 week ago (11 children)

    Same πŸ’ͺ🏻 (Mint pleb)

    [–] Asetru@feddit.org 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Ah, yes, green Ubuntu. Nice.

    [–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 17 points 1 week ago

    They also make green Debian!

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    [–] BartyDeCanter@piefed.social 9 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    It wasn’t my gateway, but I do remember when it started and rapidly became my distro of choice because of it’s focus on a good, easy, well supported desktop. sigh

    Nowadays I just use Debian Stable.

    [–] kalpol@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

    Debian for daily driver laptops, mint for your mom's daily driver laptop, OpenSuSE for desktop gaming, BSD for the servers, and life is good. Real good.

    (This is bait, but only a little. :D)

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    [–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 82 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    "We don't sell your data except to provide you with services or products" should be illegal wording. Those two words include 100% of what any company does lol

    "We don't sell your data only if you don't use us at all"

    [–] Zos_Kia@jlai.lu 35 points 1 week ago

    This is actually standard gdpr / data protection verbiage. It means the company cannot use your data for its own purposes, only to provide you services you agreed upon. Selling your data to a third party, or sending you marketing emails you didn't subscribe to, isn't "providing you with services or products" so it is explicitly forbidden.

    [–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 week ago

    We don’t sell your data except when we sell your data.

    [–] helvetpuli@sopuli.xyz 38 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    When have any of you given them your private information?

    [–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 31 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    Feel like more context would be required tbh. Like if you are contacting support by email you are giving them your email address and they kinda need it to reply to you.

    [–] deadcade@lemmy.deadca.de 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Ubuntu Pro requires users (both individuals and enterprises) to register with Canonical to receive security updates.

    [–] helvetpuli@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    You get security updates without Ubuntu pro.

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    [–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    We don't surveil you, unless we feel like it.

    [–] Prathas@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 week ago

    And don't ask us how often that happens.

    [–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    What does highschool maths have to do with anything? I assume they alsoo require higher education? Who keeps their highschool grades around for job interviews? This is absolutely bonkers!

    [–] conny@sopuli.xyz 31 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Canonical has an incredibly convoluted, daunting hiring process. What's seen in the screenshot can't even realistically be considered the tip of the iceberg. Besides fussing over your high school performance (if you don't claim to be top X% of your class it's an instant rejection), they also make you do written quizzes and some "psychometric assessment" (pseudo-science BS). After that it'll be roughly TEN rounds of interviews, the final one being with Mark Shuttleworth himself who may very well be a dick and decide he simply doesn't like you.

    If you're curious, someone has written down their full experience here: https://www.dustri.org/b/my-experience-with-canonicals-interview-process.html

    I once considered applying to them since they have a lot of interesting job postings on LinkedIn, but after reading through these experiences I decided this simply wasn't worth it.

    [–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago

    After that it’ll be roughly TEN rounds of interviews, the final one being with Mark Shuttleworth himself who may very well be a dick and decide he simply doesn’t like you.

    A dear friend of mine went through this hiring process for a very senior spot. She's been out of high-school for 35 years, has obtained 2 degrees since, and has run a hemisphere for a very nerdy storage-adjacent pro-serve company for a decade; but still needed to talk about her English marks in secondary school. I met her when we started our own company in '97.

    She suffered 14 interviews, with the prep, interview - panel, group, or solo - taking a lot of her daytime. It was grueling. She met Mark, and it went very well. Her new boss and reports were making all kinds of positive noises about starting work soon.

    A sub-stellar response from some French guy from Interview #3 torpedoed it. The rejection after all the essays, questions, prepared interviews and research was absolutely crushing and almost derailed the MBA programme she was on.

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    [–] rtxn@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

    Secondary is my highest level of education. The equivalent would be high school plus a trade. Now I'm a sysadmin at the very same university that I dropped out of, and regularly meet the calculus teacher that failed me.

    Also consider that Canonical is a British company, and secondary education is often enough in Europe to become a well-functioning adult.

    [–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 week ago

    I've heard some horror stories about canonical interviews, namely that Mark Shuttelworth sits in on all the interviews, and dismisses applicants based on vibes

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    [–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Canonical was good, then the Amazon Affiliate link in the Sidebar happened, after that it only went down hill.

    [–] dudeface@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

    They were trying to be too general purpose but never had good enough enterprise support to make people consider moving from redhat so they tried to get profit from desktop users

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    [–] MoffKalast@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    You know when someone says "your X is extremely important to us" it's always the opposite.

    [–] Trail@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

    No, it is important to them because it makes them money.

    [–] renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)
    [–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 9 points 1 week ago

    It has Ubuntu in it

    [–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    First law of privacy policies: if someone feels compelled to start out by ensuring that your privacy is important to them, it's not.

    If it actually is, their policies will demonstrate that clearly and unambiguously, and they won't have to be so defensive about it.

    [–] Polaris@jlai.lu 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    "Your private data is extremely important to us, as we make money from it", how the hell do they manage to be this shady x(((

    [–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    It's a for-profit corporation, always was. The only thing changed is people started to actually care about it a bit

    [–] Polaris@jlai.lu 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    no problems with being for-profit, the problem is getting money from selling the private date of those using your product

    [–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    It is a problem for being for-profit. When you're for-profit, you're seeking profit, and personal data gives you that profit. No way to not connect the dots.

    [–] Polaris@jlai.lu 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

    You can entirely be for-profit and earn your profit without the reselling of personal data. It was more common before net 2.0, for example Google first served you one or two links of ads based on your search. No saving and forwarding user data, just simply "for X amount, your webpage will be displayed to users searching Y keyword"

    [–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

    Google was at the beginning of the market to sell the data, it didn't exist before. Obviously they didn't try to scrape every ounce of it before they made (not them specifically, but they played a big role in it) a market to sell it on. The second it became profitable, they started doing it.
    You can theoretically be for-profit and don't do anti-human shit, but that will be going directly against the only reason for-profit companies exist: maximising shareholder value. So those companies either don't survive or change for the worse.

    [–] Newsteinleo@infosec.pub 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    I have bad news for you, non-profits need money too

    [–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    If you can't understand what the difference between the for-profit organization, and a non-profit with operational cost, you need to go way back to the basics

    [–] Newsteinleo@infosec.pub 1 points 6 days ago

    Um... I do understand but I am not sure you do.

    [–] oceancloud@discuss.online 11 points 1 week ago

    Thank you for helping me form an opinion about Canonical.

    [–] dragnucs@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    I thnok context is required here. Canonical foes not only make Ubuntu, it makes other things. Maybe they ask for information only for their cloud subscription or something?

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