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Does Honda sell any other BEVs in other markets, or is this it?

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[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 56 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Japanese automakers sure screwed themselves over by only betting hard on hydrogen. The fuel's limitations were so easy to see early on in the development of the tech. I feel bad for all the workers suffering from the stupid decisions their leaders took.

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I half felt that hydrogen was some sort of red herring to get green subsidies without encouraging competition.

Probably a bit tin foil hat of me.

[–] angeredkitten@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

It was absolutely a way to show they were working on green technologies that likely wouldn't pan out. There was very little adoption in the mid-2000s and they persisted over a decade later trying to push the same fuel with no infrastructure in place. It was designed to flop.

[–] TBi@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah it always surprised me that a country with so many nuclear power stations would not go head first into electric cars

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 weeks ago

That was the Japanese government pushing a national industrial agenda.

[–] aaa@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

What limitations were you thinking of?

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[–] artyom@piefed.social 29 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

So disappointing. I've been a dedicated Japanese buyer for most of my life (my entire family, really. Maybe a couple dozen cars between Honda and Toyota) but I quit in 2016 when I switched to EVs.

[–] Sunshine@piefed.ca 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Japan doesn’t even have 2% ev marketshare.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

All EVs have only a 6% market share in the US. Lemmy is full of doom for these companies, but they are actually making healthy money, unlike EV companies. Tesla is dying, Lucid is rumored broke, tons of EV companies are gone. Y'all are not buying EVs.

[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This was just a Chevy Blazer EV rebadge, made in Mexico.

[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 3 points 3 weeks ago

And it 100% feels like it. It has zero Honda feel to it.

[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 20 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

As a Prologue owner, and legacy Hona owner family...

The Prologue was never a Honda. It was a Chevy with a Honda badge. It doesn't feel like a Honda on any way shape or form, and has all the downsides that usually come with all of the other fake Honda models.

Also have had a Model 3 and Polestar 3 previously (as well as several RV rentals) to compare EVs, and the Prologue is a mediocre EV at best.

I was looking forward to the new models they abandoned earlier this year, it seems like Honda just is wanting to give up any sort of competitiveness outside Japan.

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[–] Triumph@fedia.io 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Isn't that just a badge engineered Blazer?

[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Yes and the biggest difference is that the Prologue supports Android Auto and Car Play. The Blazer EV has Android Automotive.

[–] finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Android Automotive does not preclude Android Auto / Carplay. Both are available in my Polestar 2 (which uses Android Automotive). If it isn't available in the Blazer, the blame lies with GM.

[–] st3ph3n@midwest.social 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Even some other GM models with Android Automotive have CarPlay/Android Auto, such as the Cadillac Lyriq. They'll likely remove it the next time those get a refresh though.

[–] finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah it really pisses me off how every car company is going back to their own shitty infotainment because using android auto or carplay means they can't collect and sell your data as easily. Like fuck me for just wanting to have the navigation and music apps of my choice on my phone seamlessly integrate with my driving experience, I guess.

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[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 4 points 3 weeks ago

The Prologue runs Android Automotive. In fact, it's listed as a GM model in the Play Store.

It ALSO supports both Android Auto and Apple CarPlay.

The Chevy models however only support CarPlay.

[–] Hello_there@fedia.io 11 points 3 weeks ago

Wasn't a Honda in the first place

[–] quickenparalysespunk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Honda is struggling generally as a company so this is not a surprise. unfortunate though.

[–] SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They missed the initial EV (and hybrid) wave, but I think they believe they can ride it out thanks to their motorcycles, at least until this new gen of batteries has matured.

That, and they probably lose a lot less sleep trying to muddle out the ever changing trade dynamics with the US. No need to sink money into yesteryear's EV tech when dementia Don has his finger on the scale.

[–] st3ph3n@midwest.social 2 points 3 weeks ago

I think their motorcycle lineup is stagnating too. Honda used to make cool new bikes that pushed the technical envelope and disrupted the market. They pretty much single-handedly killed the British motorcycle industry with the CB750 in the 1970s. Now most of their bikes are very conservative 'safe' bets. I guess they probably still sell millions of bikes every year though, particularly in asian markets.

[–] infinitevalence@discuss.online 9 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I have said it before, my 2015 Oddesy will be my last ICE vehicle, unless I get a project car for weekend drives or something.

So this will be my last "new" Honda, there might be room for an S2000 in my garage.

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[–] thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's not a lot better in the UK for Honda BEVs.

https://www.honda.co.uk/cars/new/electrified-range-2026.html

You have the Super N city car and that's it for BEV, rest are hybrid

[–] aeiou@piefed.social 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I'm still disappointed America doesn't get the E/N :(

[–] Zonefive@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Was hoping they’d bring back the Element with an EV option but unlikely at this point.

[–] st3ph3n@midwest.social 2 points 3 weeks ago

That would be a cool vehicle.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

Honda E is cool af.

[–] unwillingsomnambulist@midwest.social 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It was as much a Honda as the Toyota Cavalier was a Toyota. Surely they can engineer a better EV than the Prologue in-house.

[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 6 points 3 weeks ago

They were. They killed those models a month or so ago.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

I never understood why Honda worked with GM to offer the Proluge. They have the NY1, which is based off the HR-V, but the damn vehicle is expensive too.

[–] MyOpinion@lemmy.today 2 points 2 weeks ago

Looks like Honda is the company that will fail first or Maybe Mazda.

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