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I've been about, and so far, almost everyone's advice has been, "Buy a Pixel and install Graphene," which I think is frankly quite unrealistic. Even the cheapest device that's still supported (Pixel 6) is still about $200 refurbished, and that apparently loses support one month later (October 2026).

So basically, are there any options for people who aren't wealthy?

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[–] Xylight 7 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

You can still sideload apps. While the change is ridiculous, you still can sideload apps. They just make it significantly more painful to enable sideloading.

[–] Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, except for developers who don't want to give their ID to Google. Those apps won't be able to be installed on standard android devices at all as far as I can tell.

[–] Xylight 8 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

The situation is pretty confusing, but you're still gonna be able to side load unverified apps. The "advanced flow" that makes sideloading obnoxious to do is specifically for unverified apps, whereas verified apps (where devs have to fork up their ID to google) can be installed without any hassle.

[–] Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I see. Safe to assume the confusion is part of the design.

[–] volore@scribe.disroot.org 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

The other problem with this is that this is all controlled through the Play store API, not your device, so they can yank your access to all of those unverified apps any time they want and say "actually, no verification = no run, fuck you, pay me"

If you don't think they will, that they're not just dying to do exactly that and squeeze people just that little extra bit more for YT Premium subscriptions or whathaveyou, ask the people who had their movies yoinked from their library with no warning by Sony (over fucking licensing costs, at that, not even hurting their profits directly) if they thought that would ever happen and how it worked out for them.

[–] volore@scribe.disroot.org 5 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

And apps that google simply won't approve, like ReVanced.

I'm lucky I bought a Pixel some years ago, I have been using it stock but I've been backing up all my shit this last month in preparation to put graphene on it. It'll be a cold day in hell before they force me to watch YouTube with ads and no sponsorblock, I'd sooner read a book.

[–] lemmyng@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Buy a phone supported by LineageOS. If the phone doesn't have bootloader relocking, you're pretty much trading security for privacy, but it really depends on your threat model. Lineage does support a much wider array of devices, whereas GrapheneOS only supports Pixels (until their partnership with Motorola kicks off), and CalyxOS supports Pixels, Motorolas, FairPhones and the Shiftphone 8.

[–] Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

CalyxOS, huh? I haven't heard of that, and it seems to support some fairly reasonable devices.

[–] Nomad@infosec.pub 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Fun fact, the guy begins calyx was the first ever to successfully challenge A national security letter ever. The current darknet diaries episode tells that story.

[–] Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 19 hours ago

Oh, wow, that's actually super interesting to me. I'm gonna have to look that up, thanks.

[–] lemmyng@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago

I used CalyxOS prior to GrapheneOS, and I'd say Calyx is just as reliable as GrapheneOS. Give it a shot if you have or can purchase a phone that supports it.

https://calyxos.org/

[–] supplier@hexbear.net 2 points 18 hours ago

I've been thinking about this a lot too. Hard to draw any other conclusion than "the bastards won this round"

Maybe I'll buy a fairphone

[–] 30p87@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Using any other ROM, not made by chronically abusive narcisissts living in their dream world where their own ROM is the only acceptable choice.

Eg. LineageOS. Good chances are it already works on your device.

[–] Salamanderwizard@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm stupid. Does this mean I can install a new operating system on my phone?

[–] 30p87@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago

On many Android devices, yes. Which phone do you have?

[–] kokomo@reddit.kokomo.cloud 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

In addition to the options below, I highly suggest Backmarket pretty good deals on refurbs there too :)

[–] Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Do they have some kind of deal with Samsung? I looked, and as far as unlocked phones go, the only thing they have for less than $300 is various models of Samsung Galaxy.

Edit: Nah, there's definitely something going on there. I went to the site, clicked Android phones on the first page, and got a listing of strictly Samsung phones.

[–] kokomo@reddit.kokomo.cloud 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

They have pixel phones as I just checked when I wrote the reply, you just have to scroll or search

EDIT: But i can agree that it's pretty annoying for user interface stuff that they automatically go to samsung :/ the android smartphone category though is bountiful for pixel / motorola