people still buying from amazon in 2026 deserve being ripped off imo
this post was submitted on 08 Jul 2026
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Couldn't have said it better myself. Why do we think this?
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Most "name brands" have long been acquired by large umbrella corporations, and shortly after doing so, the "brand recognition" is often leveraged to market white label products; which is increasingly the only differentiator between it and off-brand products. That, and the price-difference: simply paying more for a meaningless "name brand", on an equally inexcusably poor quality product; besides a slightly less shitty customer experience, hopefully.
I really think it's poor design to purely filter on appearance of brands, rather than actual brand reputation. Yes, it might serve as an overgeneralized indicator for questionable reputation, but marketable brands shouldn't be treated as reputable either.
Yeah absolutely agree. I always but hydroflask bottles, but never through hydroflask. The exact same bottles and exact same lids are sold under a rolling list of random Chinese companies like this. Usually these companies do have real names, they're just super Chinese and not worth properly localizing.
Hell, I recently got a new fancy video monopod. The official US name brand that sells it is harlowe. It sells for about a grand
I bought this exact same model from "yc onion" with a nonsensical name the "pineta pro" (said "pine-tah") for less than half that.
I literally brought mine into a store after realizing how similar they are and compared them side by side. Even the stamp and sticker placement is identical. Like they clearly come from the exact same factory just with a different color and a different name printed into the same box on the side.
Why the fuck would anyone pay the 60% price hike just to have a known US company sell it to you? The really shitty thing is that I'm not sure how b and h is allowed to sell it. When I talked to my local camera store they said that they weren't allowed to sell it because they were a brand partner to the US brand and couldn't sell non us products without getting fined or dropped by their suppliers. Maybe b and h is just big enough to not have to care anymore, but that's just going to be one more nail in the already dying camera store market.
The only problem is that “knock off” brands are the only ones making products in at least some instances that used to be filled by the “brand names”.
This is the result of globalizing manufacturing. Eventually the brands that could pay for advertising stopped making things, and the void was filled by these “knock offs” (I don’t care for that term as it was applied in this article. These aren’t fake designer hand bags, they’re just products that don’t have a recognized brand name).
They're usually knock offs. They aren't trying to present themselves as an item made by Versace or whatever, but they knock off someone else's idea or product.
That's still a knock off by most any definition.
It’s not a knockoff unless it’s intended as a copy of a different product. A cheap product in the same category is not a knockoff.
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/knockoff
The correct industry term is white label products.
The manufacturing environment in China is different. A lot of products are made from an existing design, then anyone who wants to sell those buds then from the factory.
The weird "brand names" are basically drop shippers. People buy Thing, send them to Amazon's warehouses, pop a storefront.
Don't hate the player, hate the game.
The weird brand names are because Amazon requires the products you sell to have a "brand" in order to provide them plausible deniability tat your product is not generic OEM stuff from China. So the sellers of generic Chinese OEM stuff have adapted by making up nonsensical brands and registering the letter jumble they come up with as a trademark. Now Amazon can claim everything on their site is a "brand name" product, see? It's all totally above board.
Hate both.
Yes, this is called "white labeling". Brazil does it for a ton of Chinese products. The three big computer part retailers in Brazil get parts from other brands and put their own label on it and sell them as their own.
Okay? So? Brand names exist to have a reputation. A random string of characters isn't trying to develop and trade on a positive reputation and so is automatically suspect.
They do own the IP though and I dont know how we feel about physical product IP rights? Those are kinda useful.
That's not how it works. Factory makes Thing. Anyone who wants to resell Thing buys it from the factory and labels it BRAND Thing.
Yeah but someone has to design the thing
It could be designed by company A and made in Factory A, then designers at factory A come up with a way to cut costs and make a worse design that is similar to company A's design but slightly worse and much cheaper, then the factory makes that, and drop shippers sell it.
Lots of factories design things. This isn't the 80s. The factories are often a complete firm with design, R&D teams, etc. It's what ODMs are and they exist for all things, simple and cheap to complex and expensive.
Yes but aren't people entitled to revenue of the brand they build? And I dont mean Nike here but something like a band selling their t shirts etc. The copying in chinese manufacturing is going too far to the point where it's a net negative on our society and I say this as someone who's generally anti copyright.
Making new tech innovation is such a gamble these days - you only have a few months to make back money you spent on your initial design because manufacturers just overpower you eventually unless you make it not worth it for them through explicit brand protection strategies. It's such a waste of everyone's resources and stiffles human effort overall.
aren’t people entitled to revenue of the brand they build?
Perhaps no. Take the capitalist system at its best - the brief periods in an industry when a competitive environment delivers good products at low prices. That kind of environment means competitors can very easily start producing an alternative of what the other guy is producing and undercut their prices. This is the desired status quo that actually delivers wealth for most people. In such status quo, the firms that make things can only make as much money as to pay their costs and salaries with little leftover for shareholders. Conversely - the vast majority of society gets more things and has more money to buy more other things, instead of padding the pockets of shareholders. This is what competition is and obviously firm owners, large or small, don't like it.
The fact that we can't make a whole lotta things in (Canada) without costing 3x what China makes it for is a separate but related issue. Personally I think it's got a lot more to do with how much money Canadian firms make at various sides of the supply chains. People like talking abt cheap labour but Chinese labour isn't nearly as cheap as it used to be and labour isn't the main cost in a whole lotta things. E.g. in automotive labour is 10-15% of the cost. The rest is tools, machines, and parts like nuts and bolts. A Canadian-blessed machine screw set from my local hardware store costs $20. A significantly larger set from AliExpress (not the cheapest place in China) costs $2. This speaks to the profit margins involved in the two screw sets. Most of our industries have gone past their competitive stages and are now largely consolidated into 1 to several firms so they can extract significant profit margins. I think the avg for North American corpos is 10-15%. In China that's about 5% and the state-owned sector which provides a lot of inputs operates as non-profit. Margins across suppliers for a product stack like compound interest and the price grows exponentially. If you have a product that starts at $1 at the beginning and you have 5 suppliers till the final product, you get $1.28 with 5% avg and $2.01 with 15% avg. If you have 10 suppliers you get $1.63 vs $4. The difference between the two is also exponential. The exorbitant profits of our industries make it not only too expensive to make things here, it makes it very difficuly to even attempt anything by people who don't have significant capital.
So yeah, the answer is def in-house manufacturing for more than one reason but for it to be viable, shareholders have to make less, a lot less. If we get to such a point, down to just the difference in price of labour, I'm pretty sure we'd be able to easily handle that. The state we're in at the moment is def not healthy but I don't think we'll solve it by protecting shareholder value while keeping domestic worker salaries low - a reflection of the high margins. When margins go down, either prices would go down, or wages would go up, or both. Both make it possible for more people to buy the domestically manufactured product. In other words the in-house manufactured product won't be 3x market price in real terms anymore.
Which 14 product listings are left after that
The ones at a price you wouldn't pay.
But don't forget you can finance it! And who doesn't want to brag with their "Expensive Brand" labeled something, that mostly doesn't have any inherent benefits or quality over the cheaper Chinese OEM stuff.
I would live if the extension just blocked Amazon and directed you to actual company websites when you go to add a product to cart.
That would be great, except it seems that most companies are actively discouraging you from using their website, as it's easier for them to list through Amazon. Recent experience was the product on the website was higher prices, slower shipping and a restocking fee if you need to return. Amazon? Next day, 'free shipping' and easy returns.
Not sure unless the place exists locally and you can go in store and actually buy something (that's becoming rare as well), that there is a better way except to not buy anything in general.
I think there are browser extensions and add-ons out there that plug in alternative storefronts you can buy from when looking up an item on Amazon, but you'd have to dig them up. I don't recall any of the names, I just know I've read about them.
This is stupid. There are lots of great products from sellers without an established "brand"
Unless you know what you look for, choosing the white label products from Amazon can be risky. For someone like me with extensove experience working with China I can usually tell what is crap and what is good enough, but the average person might take postings at face value or choose a category of product that is high risk of causing harm (e.g. I won't buy any no name plastic or rubber items that come in contact with food)
That is true, but sometimes you want the established brand because of the warranty.
It nicely dims out items with sketchy or no brands but you can still select them if you want.
That sounds useful and is there an extension that hides duplicate results?
Amazon search is shit at best, need also an extension to improve search, if there is anything that can fix that flaming pile of garbage.
amazon's web site as a whole has always been shitty, going all the way back to when they just sold books.
I've ordered products from some of the brands specifically mentioned, and the quality to price is often great.
Would I buy anything with a battery or an internet connection from them? Probably not. But are many things fine, and likely produced in the same sweat shops as household name brands.
It seems like a stretch to automatically hide every temu-esk brand... The brands themselves don't even attempt to hide what they are.
The next level is getting it straight from AliExpress, skipping the 25% Bezos Yacht tax.