Technology

Beat me to it.

It's sort of the problem akin to robbing Ft. Knox. Most people just don't have a bag big enough to carry it all away. The Chinese economy is one of the few big enough to support the kind of multi-billion dollar data centers that can accumulate and process data at scale.

But even beyond that, a lot of the modern underlying technology for AI is in the process of relating the data and inferring the resulting answer. Where Altman's whiners want to claim theft is in the raw data they've (illegally) scraped and compiled. Where Chinese firms have innovated is in the speed and accuracy of aggregating the data and returning useful results.

One reason why Altman keeps saying he needs another trillion dollars for hardware and electricity is that his models are shit and his approach is largely brute-force. His overseas rivals - DeepSeek, Moonshot, Stepfun, etc - have invested far more in the actual logical design of their systems. The end result is the kind of video rendering that rendered Sora obsolete almost as soon as it was released. And the kind of advanced coding that's scaring the shit out of the engineers at Claude and Gemini.

*billions

Yes, because most of the stock market is tied to the few AI companies. It's the only thing keeping up the facade of a growing economy. The last thing they need is someone showing investors how unimpressive and easily copied the tech is, especially when they're all looking to go IPO and cash out.

Quite literally the entire history of copyright. Each generation of robber barrons angry at the next generations upstart criminals skimming their rent.

I still have logs from Anthropic bot not respecting robots.txt ddosing my home lab and stealing code. Where can I send them ?

Ahem, what they are still doing based on everyone's overloaded webserver logs.

No what the Chinese do is much more ethical because they actually pay for the tokens. Basically anthropic is complaining that companies use and pay for their product :'(

They're releasing it open weighs mostly, not open source necessarily.

Not all that different from the freeware model, where you get a binary that you can run, but you don't really have the building blocks to make it yourself.

Us strategy is to chase the latest frontier model and while they burn money to get to that economy solving model they just plant to get everybody hooked, so they can ramp up prices later and make mega profits. Chinese just see the AI as a productivity multiplier and expect the money to be made elsewhere, their models are open and their Ai companies work on a loss. US plan really expects that there is eventually A) no competition, and B) their shit can actually be so useful that soon nobody can live without them. Everything the Chinese do is just poison to US AI companies.

That is not even correct anymore. China is nowadays in the lead on battery technology in specific and EVs in general anxx dc that lead is home made. The West simply did not care about battery technology that much, as it was considered a low return business. You can't copy that much anymore if you are the technology leader yourself. China is also increasingly outresearching the rest in other fields.

I am not saying that China isn't still copying elsewhere where it isn't technology leader. The US and Japan have historically done the same.

PS: Regarding LLMs, no tears for thiefs being stolen from btw.