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[–] zackhow@programming.dev 113 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The fine is not the largest ever imposed on Google, however.

In October 2024 a charge was brought against the firm by a Russian court for restricting Russian state media channels on YouTube.

The fine was for two undecillion roubles - more than the world's total GDP.

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[–] radiouser@crazypeople.online 113 points 2 months ago (4 children)

about 0.11% of Google (Alphabet)'s total worth.

[–] joyjoy@piefed.social 59 points 2 months ago

the price of doing business

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 34 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The question is how much money did they make by using Android to block rivals. If using Android helped them make 1bn extra then this fine costs them 3bn and it doesn't make sense from them to keep doing it. If they made 100bn than obviously they will continue.

[–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean, with it they've managed to build a walled garden that includes the majority of every phone in the world.

We can probably assume trillions.

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[–] Jiral@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Total Worth doesn't matter. What matters is revenue and profit anf that is the basis for the fine.

[–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

When it comes to something punitive like a fine, fine versus worth is literally the only thing that matters. If the fine isn't big enough, it's more like a fee for doing business. They just added to the bottom line and keep rolling.

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[–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 72 points 2 months ago (1 children)

significant investment to ensure Android remains open. Unless you want to install apps not from the google app store. Or develop apps not for the google app store. Or use a Captcha without having google services. Or use your bank website without google services. or use the internet without chrome. or... shit, sorry, I don't have time to list all the ways google wants the exact opposite of anything anywhere remaining "open" unless by "open" they mean "open to google's exploitation".

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 30 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Using the internet without Chrome is basically the only thing you CAN do on Android.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 months ago

And google definitely doesn't like that. lol

[–] tirateimas@lemmy.pt 65 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Now lets use part of that money, to fund the development of open alternatives and interoperable protocols / standards. We cannot break a duopoly, if there aren't any alternatives, otherwise it will keep being a duopoly.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

4 billion can go a very long way.

[–] cheat700000007@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Believe it or not, straight to data centers

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[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 5 points 2 months ago (3 children)

i can't stand microshaft, but at least windows phone was competition.

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[–] disorderly@lemmy.world 64 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Google's behavior in this debacle has been utterly shameful. They got caught with their dick in the pie and have spent 8 fucking years arguing that it was for the good of society.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 28 points 2 months ago

have spent 8 fucking years arguing

Part of the plan.

[–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

While continuing to thrust harder.

[–] BrightCandle@lemmy.world 60 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Need another one now for all the removal of side loading, that is another big antitrust issue. Best make the fine actually worth something this time.

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[–] pirate2377@lemmy.zip 33 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Wait, Google is actually facing consequences. Am I dreaming?

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I farted a few minutes ago. Google knows this and was able to monetize the sale of that data. My flatulence paid that fine.

These are not consequences. This is zero-calorie consequences.

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not zero calorie. They made more off your data and that shitty fine was a small cost of doing business.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Fun fact: I haven’t farted in hours. The misdirect both proves my point and devalues their product. Hilarious blip in the data.

Also, excuse to increase Taco Bell intake.

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[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

No, they are just getting a slap on the wrist.

It just sounds like a lot because we're poor peasants who think a thousand dollars is a life changing amount of money.

To company like google, 4 billion dollars is pocket change. a small evil tax compared to what they've made doing the evil.

[–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Not really. They’ve made probably a few hundred billion from what they’ve done to be fined $5bil. Just a cost of business expense at this level.

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[–] notsosure@sh.itjust.works 31 points 2 months ago (30 children)

👍🏽great stuff. BTW, stop using google products, there are enough good alternatives.

[–] Tim_Bisley@piefed.social 7 points 2 months ago (21 children)

Is there a good alternative for maps?

[–] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 months ago

CoMaps fulfills most of my needs

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[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You must give us your pocket change for using your monopoly power to make trillions by abusing the market.

[–] Prathas@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 months ago

Right? Forcing them to keep Android open would be far more effective than this fine.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

Snack money.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Chump change. Market cap: $4.4T. The cost of doing business is just scaling while normal people money is not.

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[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not long ago Walmart got fined by the CCP for poor food practices. Instead of saying "we disagree with the judgement" they licked the boot and said they look forward working with the government to resolve the situation. Point is, corporations should be afraid of the government, clearly Google is not afraid of the EU and as a result I expect similar behavior from them in the future.

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[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (3 children)

And once again, Apple gets a pass for doing the same thing, only worse.

[–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (20 children)

Apple don’t do anything remotely similar. Apple don’t let other manufacturers use iOS. What are you even talking about?

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[–] ape_arms@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Rothe@piefed.social 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

European Commission of course. They are the only ones left in the world trying to rein in the tech giants.

[–] c0dezer0@programming.dev 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

in the ideal world they would use the money and give it to open source phone projects.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago

I'd go further, I think in an ideal world all the countries of the world would be funding these projects and holding these huge tech companies to task.

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