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[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 43 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

The best way to kill a person and get away with it in the US is to hit that person with a SUV when they are walking. A jury of lifted truck owners will return a not-guilty verdict. Even better if the target is on a bicycle, you’ll get a pat on the back by the judge.

[–] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Or worse, motorcycle!

-seethes with rage at the very notion of vehicles with less than four wheels-

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[–] ieGod@lemmy.zip 56 points 5 days ago (12 children)

I keep saying it, you don't need trucks. Maybe 1 out of a thousand. No, that isn't you.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 35 points 5 days ago (7 children)

And out of the people who do need them, vans are still a much better way to go for many of them. Vans which have at least a margainally better field of view with their short, sloped hoods.

[–] VinegarChunks@lemmus.org 30 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I have a large family and we drive a Transit 350 van.

One day we needed to move a pair of beds and mattresses. We asked my father in law to help us since he has a F150. But it soon became apparent how much more we could fit in the van (with the two back seats removed) than we could fit in the truck, which couldn’t even fit one mattress in the truckbed without hanging out the back of the tailgate.

From what I’ve seen my van is far superior to a truck in almost every need I’ve had. It can carry more stuff and it can do so in the rain keeping the cargo dry.

The one thing a truck could do that my van can’t is pick up a scoop of mulch or gravel dumped from a loader.

[–] kevin2107@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

bro pulling up with the sprinter, how many bitches you fit in there?

[–] VinegarChunks@lemmus.org 5 points 4 days ago

It officially fits fifteen. . . passengers. But normally we have two seats removed for cargo space. So, 13

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[–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I know someone who insists that a pickup truck is more practical and her example is "you can lift a bookshelf over the side of a pickup truck instead of having to put it in the back like a van". Apparently it's more practical to lift something like 4 feet off the ground to the side of a pickup truck bed instead of like 1 foot to the floor of a van

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[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

And those who actually need them would be far better served by a VW Transporter with an aluminium bed.

[–] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago (10 children)

This is true, but there's also a real lack of small pickups on the market. The fuckers just seem to be getting bigger and bigger. I used to have a Proton Jumbuck and it was really useful. Used it a lot for hauling wood and soil, it was small enough to get around and park easily in the city. I got rid of it eventually because it was so hard to find parts, shame, it was a handy little machine.

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[–] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

One of the guys in my police academy class would rib me for being less of a man because I didn't drive a truck.

A couple months later, he would go on to commit a felony on duty in front of a half dozen of his peers, including me. Nobody bothered to report him but me, even after we had a meeting about someone from a neighboring agency doing nearly the exact same thing that had been fired and arrested for it. Being a brand new deputy, I thought it was an integrity test so I was more than willing to report it. IA dropped the case.

In hindsight, that was a clue I should've started applying elsewhere or quit, but I had three more years to put in before I wouldn't have to pay back my academy pay, not to mention I naively trusted there was some other interpretation of what happened I hadn't considered that the agency's brass and legal team had; I wasn't about to be the Apprentice telling the Master he's full of shit.

Years later they'd fire me for some complete BS. He still works there as far as I know, and the US Army promoted him to Captain.

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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 29 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Not being able to someone walking in front of you is a god given right.

[–] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

Doubly so if they're a toddler.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to protest at an abortion clinic because killing children is immoral when a woman does it.

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[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I have a F150 I use as a farm truck, and an old samurai. (The little 4x4, not the feudal warrior) The samurai is lifted and has larger tires on it, and the hood is still still only about waist-high. Much lower than the F150's hood which is almost chest high. (Im 6ft tall, that's ~183cm)

The F150 is honestly not very useful for hauling, because the sides of the bed are armpit high. Heavy things must be lifted a few feet to get up on the tailgate when its open. Most of the time anymore I use the samurai to pick up things like animal feed or fertilizer or other heavy bags of stuff, because it won't get stuck in the yard like the truck will, and its just more fun to drive, all 65 horsepower of it.

[–] ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 4 days ago (4 children)

But the f150 is much more gender affirming to cismasc people, you misandrist cisphpbic piece of shit.

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[–] Steve@startrek.website 29 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I saw a chart that showed a much stronger correlation with smart phones

[–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 24 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (14 children)

Why not both?

If phones are causing more collisions... then bigger vehicles have more kinetic energy, hence more deaths...

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[–] iknewitwhenisawit@fedinsfw.app 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I don't think that we see the same increase in pedestrian fatalities in other countries though, which do have smart phones but do not have massive personal trucks.

[–] iknewitwhenisawit@fedinsfw.app 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)

In Europe:

In the US:

Not exactly the same years, of course, and comparing data sets is tricky.

[–] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (9 children)

The minima at 2009-2010 is absurdly clear though. You undid 20 years of progress in about 10 years. I'm honestly shocked - what happened in 2009 to cause this? I would think increasing truck sizes would cause a much more shallow minima, since truck sizes don't suddenly increase from one year to the next.

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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 15 points 4 days ago (42 children)

No more inexpensive cars for the masses. No one is building a sub-compact or a sedan anymore. Now I have 300 "options" I don't even want on a vehicle and no way to get out of paying for them. Driving is becoming more of an upper-class activity nowadays and we all know how size matters to that crowd.

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[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Its ok though, we had to get rid of popup headlights because "oh no pedestrian safety". But classify fucking everything as a light truck and you can do whatever the fuck you want.

[–] Yaky@slrpnk.net 7 points 4 days ago

Instead of headlights 2 feet off the ground, now we have overpowered searchlights (brighter = safer, amirite?) mounted 4 feet high, guaranteed to blind pedestrians and any shorter vehicle's driver.

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[–] Rothe@piefed.social 15 points 5 days ago (7 children)
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[–] vinyl@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

I wanna vomit especially when I see carolina squatted pick up trucks or really any pick up truck that isn't actually used for their original purpose.

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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

800ish more fancy tech "safety" features and even more death. Fuck the "we will protect you" bullshit. It's way cheaper if I protect myself, but that option doesn't exist. "Look! My car flashes and beeps when another car passes me on a city lane!". That's not assistance, that's a distraction.

[–] feetandballs@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago

I was talking about this with my wife. If it beeps when I'm in reverse and a car is 50 feet behind me then it's only training me to ignore the exact same beep that it makes when a person is approaching from my blind spot on foot.

[–] MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago (13 children)

I was standing in front of a parked SUV the other day and I swear its grille was chest-high. I'm 5'4", I'd definitely not survive if one hit me.

Some years back, a couple of my friends drove Toyota Rav 4s. They were cute little all-wheel drive cars with three doors. This article tracks how the Rav 4 "evolved" into the ugly, massively bloated vehicle it is today. https://www.carwow.co.uk/toyota/rav4/news/8854/toyota-rav4-generations-evolution

And that giant truck has never hauled anything beyond kids to games and groceries.

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[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That, and the tiny distracted driver machines in our pockets and dashboards

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Frontovers is the highest growing category of accident. They're happening because people can't see small children over the hood of their emotional support freedom truck, orphan crushing model.

Yes, cell phones but mostly lack of visibility.

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