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For all its failures it does seem to be pretty good at recognizing patterns. Why dont we just use it to predict crimes before they happen? the world could be a better place.🌻 think of the children.

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[–] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

If you think that you're making a joke, that's exactly what facial recognition systems are doing right now, and it's prosecuting innocent people.

[–] viertesauge@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago

maybe they'd feel better if the AI has a sexy person's voice

[–] c64z86@piefed.world 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Because it would essentially change the justice system from innocent until proven guilty to guilty until proven innocent, which is much much worse.

[–] falcunculus@jlai.lu 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Because "garbage in, garbage out". Statistical models will by design reproduce any bias in the training data.

For instance, in 2018, Amazon scrapped a hiring AI tool because it discriminated against women. It did so because it was trained on previous Amazon hires which, it turns out, had a sexist bias. It's a testament to the power of these statistical methods that the tool managed to discriminate against women in spite of gender having been stripped from the data: the model managed to reconstitute the information based on other elements to a statistically significant degree.

Applying this to crimes, can you think of any biases in police action or the justice system that could be reproduced by the AI? Communities that get unfairly targeted, or others that benefit from blind spots?

Furthermore, there are some other issues.

One is confirmation bias: if the AI predicts there will be crime in an area and a patrol car is sent, it will confirm the prediction.. In that police tends to find crime wherever it goes. If this data is then again used as input, over time this will bias the AI more and more.

Another issue is dilution of responsibility. If a human being gives an order that turns out to be illegal, they are legally responsible and can be prosecuted. If however that same person tells their subordinates to obey the AI, and that AI gives illegal orders, who is responsible? In truth, the same people are still in charge – they can feed and train the AI however they like, and ignore its output if it isn't as they wish. But it is a legally and mediatically gray area that would be very useful for enforcing illegal orders without risking prosecution.

[–] Hackworth@piefed.ca 2 points 1 day ago
[–] mech@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How would you prevent a crime your AI predicted?
Put someone in prison who hasn't (yet?) done anything, because an AI marked them?

[–] viertesauge@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago

look, it just knows. okay?

[–] Rod_Orm@piefed.world 1 points 23 hours ago

Minority report

[–] FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

If we first ask it to solve existing crimes, AI would only be able to hallucinate them because 1. AI aims to answer any query the viewer gives and B. It will be satisfied with super low amounts of data so if you said "here are ten people who visited the crime scene that day," it will make up a reason that one was guilty - even something baseless like racial profiling - or say something nonsensical

Ai fills quoatas and extrapolates. If you gace it adequate data, you've done the legwork already, and can probably solve it yourself.

So if we asked it to oredict crimes i thimk it would be purely hallucination

[–] viertesauge@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago

if you cant do time, dont be hallucinated in the crime

[–] Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

because no crime happened...

that's it... going after someone because you THINK they might commit a crime is a surefire way to have everything thrown out in court, or you go full Nazi american and jail everyone for thoughts.

dumb idea

[–] viertesauge@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago

okay but what if they help you commit the crime you where gonna do anyways and then jail you?

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 0 points 23 hours ago

Because it's unethical to punish someone for something they haven't done based on a psychic prediction

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca -1 points 23 hours ago

Ever watch Minority Report?

[–] SomGye@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago

This is just the Minority Report movie

[–] Arrandee@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because it’s in the hands of people who lack nuance, and prefer to assume everybody who isn’t in their little brotherhood are ruthless career criminals. Maybe if police weren’t overwhelmingly psychopathic ratfuck bastards, your plan might have some immediate applications.

[–] viertesauge@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

maybe the ai could just notify you that you are going to commit a crime and you can go like nuh uh im just walkin' ere