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[–] Bwaz@lemmy.world 1 points 46 minutes ago

Israel damn near OWNS the legislature of that powerful ally.

[–] Transform2942@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The funniest part to me is that he's not wrong

[–] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Well, what he is forgetting is that the US and israel are not actually distinctly seperate entities. The settler colonial state would not exist with ouy the US war machine and the US global petrocracy wouldnt exist without israel destabilizing the region.

That is why biden said in the 90s "if there were not an israel, the united states would have to create an israel to protect her interests in the region"

its like if you were a settler in the 1800s trying to pretend that gold rush california wasnt entirely propped up by the US

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml -1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

The US petrocracy would definitely exist without Israel. Israel has never added any value to the US Middle East plundering.

[–] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It is literally the start of the middle east plundering for the US and acts as a destabilizing force in the region. Please feel free to elaborate but your statement as is is historically and politically false

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Did Israel fight in the Iraq war? Afghanistan? Yemen? Egypte? Anything besides committing genocide in Palestine?

Even in the Iran war, the US bases are doing everything and Israel is wasting all US interceptors.

The guy in your sauce is the top AIPAC recipient of all time who destroyed US soft power for Israel. He is known as Genocide Joe. You think he has any reason to present Israel as something it's not?

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

every single us ally is gonna get thrown under the bus. every single treaty broken.

at this point it's your fault if they fuck you over.

[–] kamenlady@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Uh uh uh - don't tell me they didn't say it.

Did they forget to say thank you?