CW: (Child killing, Racism) Cops fired on a family car when called about someone shoplifting diapers. : acab

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 39 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

"Officers attempted to stop the vehicle, but the driver drove in the direction of the officers, almost striking one,"

Release the video so we can see this for ourselves, piggies. I'm willing to bet the piggy was nowhere near the car until they tried to jump into its path so as to justify magdumping a child.

Also I hate this passive news voice shit:

A child was killed after an officer fired upon a vehicle following a reported shoplifting at a Walmart in Mississippi, authorities said.

Phrasing it as though those are two separate, unrelated events. A cop murdered a child. Say it with your chests, cowards.

[–] HandsHeartEyes@hexbear.net 1 points 1 day ago

I would love to see the cop reaction if someone described someone shooting a cop as an "officer-involved shooting."

[–] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, coming off the "almost striking one" and then dropping "No officers were seriously injured, the bureau said." honk-enraged

Yeah, no shit! No officers were injured. At all. And if they aren't releasing cam footage there is 0% chance they were ever at risk of being injured...

[–] DasRav@hexbear.net 14 points 3 days ago

They are just confirming that the cops didn't shoot each other.

[–] Athena5898@hexbear.net 18 points 3 days ago

When I was still on the Facebook hell site, I would make a lot of liberals angry at me for pointing this shit out. I can't stand the media. "Officer involved shooting." Okay jane, how was the officer involved???"

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Officers deliberately put themselves in a situation which could only escalate and give them qualified immunity excuse to kill on the ground they were annoyed and inconvenienced. As per standard training.

[–] Johnny_Arson@hexbear.net 38 points 3 days ago

Fucj the Walmart employee that called the cops. I hope this haunts them for the rest of their lives and they rethink ever calling cops on a shoplifter again.

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 29 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Fun fact, if you're attentive at Walmart you can minimize your risk for getting caught in a "price dispute".

The sensory experience of being there is awful. The basic-ass radio has tons of ads and is interrupted all the time by the intercom. If you hear "Code Spark" on the intercom it means they are slammed at the checkout aisles and it's probably easier to get away with stuff. This happens often during or right before/after rush hour. If you hear them calling one single specific associate with an obscure job (like "Stockman") to the place where you are or to the checkout you're headed to, that's a loss-prevention alert. Change your route or drop off the stuff in a random aisle.

The people they have as incognito security guards do not wear vests or nametags, but they pace around. There are usually 1 or 2 of them per store at a time. If you see someone without a cart or basket or merch, and you pass by them more than once, that's probably in-store security.

There are usually multiple places where you can check out, and according to company policy, the people at the door do not check anything that is already in a Walmart shopping bag.

If you wanted to get a good deal on diapers (or anything that doesn't fit in a shopping bag) it would be VERY easy to print out a barcode for a cheaper diaper box, slap it on, and scan that during checkout. A plausible receipt is your best defense. Their greeters are usually not canny enough (nor do they have time) to discern whether the code on the receipt is really the right one or not. And if they dispute something that you can claim is a line item on your receipt, be exasperated but polite and tell them you don't want to waste your time arguing, and walk out.

You do not hurt the store employees by taking things. The biggest night-and-day difference in lost merchandise translates to about a $0.05 per hour difference in their annual raise.

Save Money, Live Better. Shoplift.

[–] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 13 points 3 days ago (2 children)

One thing to add: if you can manage to project confidence you will almost never be questioned on your way out if you strike up a conversation with the greeter or a uniformed security guard on your way out. Unless you're being tailed like I'm the example above, of course.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

I cannot possibly stress enough to anyone i talk to about these things the importance of your vibe. Many people, especially people raised in a strict home, operate under the assumption that society operates on a basis of rules, when in reality it operates far more on a basis of vibes, with the rules existing on top of that foundation as a way of codifying and modulating the vibes. If your vibes are good and you don't stick out to them, you'll just be a forgettable part of their expected boring work flow. I watch a guy on youtube who used to be a homeless addict, and he said this about blending in: most people want to believe what they see. So if you show them what they want to believe, that's what they'll see.

[–] OrionsMask@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Good luck if you look even slightly out of the ordinary though.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So fuck me still wearing a mask

[–] Ildsaye@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I have an outstanding shape, a musculoskeletal thing that often makes me walk funny, and I mask. Hopefully I help draw eyes away from those who need it im-doing-my-part

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think about this frequently when i think about mental illness, the mentally ill, etc. I frequently think of Robert Pirsig speaking about how insanity is viewed

"He was insane. And when you look directly at an insane man all you see is a reflection of your own knowledge that he's insane, which is not to see him at all. To see him you must see what he saw and when you are trying to see the vision of an insane man, an oblique route is the only way to come at it."

In a way it's an admission of the speaker that they're unable to understand the thinking of the person they're seeing as insane. They feel their own confusion towards what the other thinks and call it the other person's insanity. I see it as people essentially saying "I do not understand you, and I don't respect you enough to try." Whereas the same person confronted by the same behaviors or thinking patterns in individuals they are socially conditioned to respect would be more likely to think of them as eccentric instead, just weird, but perhaps worth figuring out rather than pathologizing

Anyway I'm thinking about getting a haircut before i see a new doctor tomorrow for unrelated reasons, i should probably shave too

[–] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Interesting, thank you for this. Do you have a link to Pirsig's speech or do you know the title so I can look it up?

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's part of zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance

[–] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 1 points 2 days ago

Ooooh my dad kept suggesting I read that. Haven't picked it up yet

[–] Johnny_Arson@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Lmao did this the other day. Went to the salad bar at a whole foods. Rang up a fat salad while weighing my wallet, had a beer in each of my inside jacket pockets. Smiled at the security guard and told him to have a good afternoon. Bam free lunch and a couple cold ones to go with it.

[–] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hell yeah.

I like the ones where they have the option of paying for the hot food bar at the deli counter. Just walk out life i already paid

[–] Johnny_Arson@hexbear.net 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah they don't have that at the place by me, but I also wanted to look innocuous paying and leaving since I had like $14 worth of craft beers in my coat too lol

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Save Money, Live Better. Shoplift.

Yeah idk i think i'm out of the game, cameras are getting too good and i wouldn't put them past being able to use AI to tell who's actively pocketing stuff soon if they can't do that accurately already

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 1 points 2 days ago

Me and my friends, we call it anarchist calisthenics. I walked out of a Wallyworld a few weeks ago with about $100 worth of stuff that I'd paid for, and when we got back to the car, we magically had $150 worth of stuff. God truly works in mysterious ways 🙏

It's always a cost-benefit analysis, and the benefits are moderate while the costs are high. It is not uncommon for a big box store to have 2% of their inventory lost to non-sales. As for AI, it misidentifies people more often than not, and you can always use a designated outfit, face-obscuring makeup to throw off the facial recognition, and a chip in your shoe to confound gait analysis.

Now if you appropriate hundreds of dollars at once, or thousands at the same store within a year, they have an incentive to catch you. But if it's piecemeal stuff, it's not worth their time.

[–] avoid_the_noid@hexbear.net 32 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I miss working at grocery stores because I would steal diapers and formula and donate it to food banks and food not bombs.

Always had the weird handful of coworkers at those places that took joy in stopping shoplifters like they owned the fucking business or it was coming directly outta their check or something

[–] Athena5898@hexbear.net 30 points 3 days ago

Those type of people have always given me the creeps, even when I was ignorant. Petty tyrants in their tiny kingdoms that isn't even theirs.

[–] anonochronomus@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago

This exact attitude BLOWS MY MIND, I just DO NOT understand it. I'm constantly shoplifting beers and wine, usually just two 19oz IPAs at a time or like a cheap bottle of wine. I've been assaulted by grocery store employees multiple times over this exact scenario. Like what makes you think you can assault someone because they're shoplifting? WHY WOULD SOMEONE WANT TO?!? You're going to put your health and safety on the line for SOMEONE ELSE to make a tiny profit. All the times they've been "successful" against me all they manage to do is get me to drop the glass bottle on the ground. Like "OK, now no one gets it!" It happened just the other day, and this pathetic grocery store employee was yelling "give me back my bottle!" while trying to put their hands on me. Bro, you need to chill. You're lucky I know better because A LOT of people would just fuck you up for what you're trying to do right now AND it straight up IS NOT YOURS! Fuckin freaks.

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 6 points 3 days ago

erm-this-you

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 29 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I don't understand how anyone with more than zero brain cells can defend the police in America at this point. It's just murder after murder after murder. All they do is murder.

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 18 points 3 days ago

i saw this on like a shit media site haunted by chuds and they were all blaming the shoplifters for endangering the children ...because among burger brains, cops unloading on shit in public are simply a force of nature like sunshine or jesus.

other chuds were insisting that the child in the story was probably, actually a 6'6" non-white 17 year old on meth and that the news was calling them a child because of "woke".

[–] Athena5898@hexbear.net 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Honestly? anyone who isn't a complete asshat it's normally some level of denial. They just cannot comprehend that it's ALL cops. It's still makes them helpers of the status quo, but I've honestly been shocked with the amount of denial I have experienced from various levels of people. Hell, even people who do understand the issue have a hard time standing up to the propaganda when facing down a liberal.

God forbid someone in their family was a cop, they really don't like to hear how daddy or brother is a piece of shit in a death cult now. Had to deal with this in 2020 with my in-laws. That was...a whole thing. But yeah, the thin blue line cult also extends to people who don't want to believe the system is working as intended and it's not a mistake.

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

My mom insists there are still good cops out there, despite the ones in our family being complete pieces of shit who do the worst things possible to other family members whenever there's a problem. Stealing money, taking a vacation in another state when their kid needs help moving that same week, not giving any gifts for weddings, spouting off racist bullshit when behind closed doors, elderly abuse, alcoholism, cheating on their spouses....you name it.

Like if this is how they treat us, imagine what they do to strangers. Now imagine how their coworkers let them get away with it. This isn't hard to figure out and I realized it was truly all cops when I became acquainted with more outside our family in my early 20s.

[–] Trioxin@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 days ago

You can't emphasise the 'A' in ACAB enough...

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

When they say "not all cops" or "a cop helped me" I use metaphor. Cops are like those fish parasites that replace the tongue: their primary function is parasitic, and any minor tongue-like function it does serve is

-completely incidental

-the parasite's absolute lowest priority

-easily put to shame by the functions of an actual fucking tongue, with none of the parasitic blood siphoning.

[–] Salah@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago

Capitalism: where a child’s life is worth less than the lost revenue of “stolen” diapers.

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Walmart who instigated this also needs to dumpster-fire

[–] Athena5898@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I have a personal beef with Walmart. I need to see one go up in flames before I die or at least have my flaming dead body thrown at one.

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 1 points 2 days ago

eye for an eye

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago

Fuck the police

[+] ephemeral@hexbear.net 1 points 2 days ago

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