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[–] homes@piefed.world 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I can’t help but notice this isn’t a UNESCO world heritage site full of civilians…

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Don't oil refineries have civilians working in them?

[–] homes@piefed.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

A valid point to raise, but one worthy of debate.

There’s a difference between a bunch of monks, and a bunch of state-aligned gas workers. Perhaps not much, but, still, something worthy of a conversation.

I’m not trying to excuse civilian deaths, but there is a difference between the two

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That doesn't take away their status as legitimate wartime targets.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 month ago

I never said it did, but it does underline the need for careful tactics that minimize civilian harm.

Sounds like this one was successful in that which is good.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Think of all the ancient heritage in that oil from billions of years ago. All going up in flame now

[–] rayyy@piefed.social 10 points 1 month ago

Putin has made Ukraine a world power through its drone warfare development.

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I hope a lot of Russians died.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

One can't help wondering how much longer before Putin has to admit complete defeat, or accidentally falls out of a window as Russians seem to do...

How far gone is their economy by now? And some 1.5 million casualties later, Crimea is being battered, did I mention there are 1.5 million people less workings on its economy now? How far has its army been decimated? Can it actually still actively protect its borders now?

I mean, Russia is fuuuuucked, and I feel for those that didn't choose this, that don't want this, but you're letting Putin do what he wants. You want Putin to stop this? Then stop him...

Russia is ripe for a revolution. One can only hope that leads to many smaller countries that are socialist democracies