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    [–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 59 points 4 days ago (3 children)

    The more popular Linux becomes, the less true this will be.

    [–] nsh@lemmy.nz 9 points 4 days ago

    Avoid success at all costs - Simon Peyton Jones

    [–] placebo@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 days ago

    Tbf most major attacks we saw recently are cross-platform thanks to npm. AUR has always been a security risk.

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    [–] thagoat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 97 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    Never trust an NPM library

    [–] redsand@infosec.pub 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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    [–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 68 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

    Linux Users: haha those silly windows users, always searching the web for their software and getting viruses.
    Linux Users: oh no I got malware by searching the AUR!

    [–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 37 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    Don’t worry, I found a package on npm to help!

    [–] rtxn@lemmy.world 34 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

    The AUR is still safer. One, it is at least minimally moderated. If a malicious package is detected, it can be reported and removed. Two, the installer is usually not just a black box executable. Three, most of the build and runtime dependencies are from the official Arch repos, which provides some protection against supply chain attacks. For Windows installers, you have to trust the distributor to bundle clean DLLs (for that matter, the same applies to AppImages).

    But if it starts downloading anything from NPM... ^C and run.

    [–] 30p87@feddit.org 16 points 4 days ago (9 children)

    The most unsafe factor of the AUR is aur helpers and their goal to dumb everything down and streamline the process as if the AUR where an official repo

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    [–] dingleberrylover@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    I never had any issues on TempleOS.

    [–] addie@feddit.uk 19 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    Zero remote exploits since it was released. That's what divinely-inspired coding looks like, everyone.

    [–] Hypocrite9554@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

    Out of curiosity, is that actually true? Surely our lord and saviour must have made a tiny slip-up

    Edit: Apparently TempleOS doesn't have networking

    [–] Rooster326@programming.dev 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

    It is networked >!to G̷̗̙͚̥͓̼̠̩͙̀̃̎̌ǫ̷̢͈̭̪̮̝͚̟̹̭̤͇͕̪̍̅̈́͊̌̀̐͌̽d̷̡̮͕͉̥̂̽̔̾̓̋̚͘͠!<

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    [–] oce@jlai.lu 6 points 3 days ago

    My OS is a temple. 🧘

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    [–] yesman@lemmy.world 49 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    Microslop is nervous now that Linux is popular enough to attack.

    [–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 34 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    Linux has always been the bigger target. Even microslop uses linux for its severs.

    [–] four@lemmy.zip 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    I'm gonna assume that their servers are not installing stuff from AUR though

    [–] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 4 days ago

    I would hope so too

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    [–] mintiefresh@piefed.ca 42 points 4 days ago

    btw, I use malware

    [–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 38 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (8 children)

    I don't use Arch, BTW. So the biggest NPM threat vector on my machine is still VSCode.

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    [–] OutOfBoundsJupiter@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 days ago (6 children)

    ClamAV users, how's it going?

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    [–] Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    And you believe that makes you safe?

    Shit like this is a blemish on the Linux community.

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    [–] Ghoelian@piefed.social 12 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    So what are good antivirus options for Linux? is it still pretty much just ClamAV?

    [–] Johanno@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 days ago (4 children)

    Our company uses eset https://www.eset.com/us/home/antivirus/

    But afaik it costs money to really work.

    But your brain should be the best antivirus you have.

    [–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago

    But your brain should be the best antivirus you have.

    Is there an AUR package for it? seems not in the official repo

    [–] placebo@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

    But your brain should be the best antivirus you have.

    It's useful to use brain, but any security layer has holes which is why it's good to have several layers. Some attacks might be way beyond user's understanding or come from trusted sources.

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    [–] Ghoelian@piefed.social 7 points 3 days ago (6 children)

    one thread I found from 2 years ago where someone asked for the same thing, a lot of the replies are just "you don't need antivirus on Linux" lmao

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    [–] istdaslol@feddit.org 32 points 4 days ago (3 children)

    Inverted security by obscurity

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    It was certainly a weekend.

    [–] MasterNerd@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 days ago

    Yeah I'm pretty glad that I've been behind in upgrading my aur packages recently.

    [–] jason@discuss.online 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    Anyone catch that hilarious LLM exchange on aur-general mailing list over the weekend?

    [–] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

    Well that's fun. Odd someone named Campbell asking was for a tomato soup recipe, you'd think that would just be built into their bloodline or something.

    While I'm glad no JS package managers were hurt to make the soup, I do wish the recipe didn't waste so much water.

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    [–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 25 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (14 children)

    I avoid ~~orphaned~~ unmaintained packages and I wait a few days before I type yay

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    [–] HisAssholiness@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    Arch users just randomly dropping "I use Arch btw" everywhere, it was only a matter of time.

    [–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago

    I use Arch btw

    [–] gerryflap@feddit.nl 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    I learnt a lesson yeah. It looks like I got away, there's no rootkit, I found nothing weird running, I don't have npm Installed, and up until now it doesn't seem like the packages I had installed were compromised. But I had way more AUR packages installed than I was aware of. And I was just updating them without really caring about the pkgbuild, I have better things to do. Multiple packages were outdated crap that shouldn't have been there anymore.

    I was careless and took too much risk. I reduced the Installed AUR packages to a minimum, and from now on I will verify the PKGBUILDs on every update. Maybe Arch isn't really what I need. I'm on the LTS kernel and I no longer really use the AUR. But switching will be a huge hassle and this setup will work well from here on out, so I'll stick to it for now

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    [–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 14 points 4 days ago

    Also, an ad blocker.

    [–] ornery_chemist@mander.xyz 10 points 4 days ago (7 children)

    I was on arch as a vestige from my school days, having never quite found the time to switch to something more stable. When I saw the news over the weekend, I checked and found 1 would-be-infected package on my machine that was thankfully months out of date. I'm well past the point of wanting to examine PKGBUILDs every time (hence the out of date package). But, instead of just removing AUR packages and sticking to arch repos, I decided to sweep up the technical debt by wiping and installing Fedora. I'm liking it so far, minus the absolute pain in the ass that is Nvidia on Linux. Fuck academics and their insistence on writing everything targeting CUDA; otherwise, I'd have saved a good bit of money a few years ago with a much more compatible AMD card.

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    [–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

    I am at "no fucking yays and the bunch, check the package create/update dates, read PKGBUILD, only update when necessary". Has served me well so far

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