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[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 3 days ago (3 children)

It's both impressive and disturbing to see how scientifically illiterate and just plain stupid people are. Here's a deadly and crippling illness that has maimed and killed children for generations. We invented a simple injection with minimal side effects or risk, to be given in a clinical setting where adverse reactions can be promptly addressed. "Nah, I'm gonna just try my luck with the thing that maims and kills. That shot could make my kid sick!"

If only the arrogance hurt the idiot making the choice instead of subjecting innocent kids and bystanders to the consequences of their dogshit choices.

[–] bigbangdangler@reddthat.com 8 points 3 days ago

The whole "movement" should have been treated as a risk to public safety from the start. Only the antivaxxers ever thought it was just a "personal choice", because they're the ones too stupid to understand the issue in the first place.

Don't want to vaccinate your kids? Keep them the hell out of public then, and yourself included. Oh, you think that sounds oppressive? How about putting other people at unnecessary risk because your dumb ass thinks they know more than decades of medical science?

There is serious danger in the Dunning-Kruger effect which is strongly exacerbated by the existence of the internet. This is one example where it can and has literally lead to the loss of innocent life. It was never worth it to allow some insecure helicopter parents with chips on their shoulders to pretend their parental instincts meant more than the lives of others. We hand down consequences for folks who endanger public health in other areas all the time.

[–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

In communities nestled among the red sandstone cliffs and riparian forests of southern Utah, measles took hold last summer. At the main school in Hildale, a town along the Arizona border, just 30% of kindergartners are considered adequately immunized by Utah’s health department, meaning they’ve gotten recommended vaccines against measles, tetanus, polio, and more. Exemptions from childhood vaccine requirements are easily acquired in the state: Parents need only claim personal, religious, or medical reasons.

Many people in Hildale and the surrounding towns are connected to the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, a sect that has been leery of the government since a police raid in 1953 separated polygamous parents from their children. Shirlee Draper, a southern Utah resident who grew up in the faith, said they became ever more isolated in the early 2000s under the leadership of Warren Jeffs. Before he was sentenced to life in prison for sexual assault against minors, Jeffs instructed his followers to withdraw from public schools and mainstream medicine.

“Growing up, we all got our vaccines,” said Draper, who left the group during Jeffs’ reign. “It wasn’t until Warren Jeffs came along that there started to be more and more resistance.”

After Jeffs went to prison, many people left the faith but remained concerned about vaccines because of online misinformation, such as claims that the shots are toxic. Today a small shop in Hildale sells mouth sprays and oral drops professing to detoxify vaccines. Water, glycerin, and “whole grain alcohol” are listed as ingredients in one called Vxx-Dtx.

As usual, a big driver behind anti-vaxx sentiment is religion and lack of education. It only took a couple generations to overturn the strides we made with vaccines in these communities. And now herd immunity is gone.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

Before the Salk vaccine, parents lived in fear of polio every summer.

Show images like this and people don't believe it ever happened, or, it's just a coincidence polio disappeared the summer after the first vaccines were given.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 3 points 3 days ago

People used fear to get a means of control. The threat of measles went away and people trumped up a fear that your kid would become special needs as a way to gain and keep power.

[–] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Their children are suffering the consequences of their actions. Can't wait to see how they blame Biden for this

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

Fuck every adult responsible for this stupidity.

[–] Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So when do we start charging the parents with child endangerment?

[–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Can we start by targeting religious and political leaders who lead the charge on questioning vaccine efficacy? It's a top down disinformation campaign. Targeting individual parents will punish them after their kids get sick, but it won't change public perception from distrusting vaccines into lining up to get them. Although once kids start dying more frequently, we may see that perception change naturally like during the Spanish Flu.

[–] Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Too true. I like that direction. Stop the nonsense at the source.

Feels like them spreading the misinformation is the same as yelling "fire" in a crowded movie theater when none exist.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

RFK Jr has a kill count higher than Osama Bin Laden, but there are no repercussions for intentional medical misinformation.

[–] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

Unfortunately I would bet that the parents' whose child was saved by antibodies won't credit the doctor nor the medicine but will believe some other trash reason was why their baby survived. The doctor, by saving the baby, just added to the next generation of vaccine & science deniers.

[–] LemmyBruceLeeMarvin@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago