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This video is by Eric Hovagim an up and coming Tankie "reporter" and in his video he even unironically leans into China is just doing a "combatting terrorism", just like the US gov does, amongs other things to justify chinas various human rights abuses.

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[–] callyral@pawb.social 28 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Ah, I already have ml blocked

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

It keeps getting unblocked for me and I don't know why. They're insufferable.

[–] blah3166@piefed.social 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

migrate to Piefed - it works with lemmy instances but doesn't rely on software created by propaganda spreading scumbags. the less people use anything created by dessalines the better

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

How does one migrate? I’m on lemmy.world

[–] SirHaxalot@nord.pub 2 points 3 weeks ago

You will want to go to the setting page on Lemmy.world, there should be a section to Export your settings as JSON.

Then you can go to https://redirect.piefed.social/ and pick a PieFed instance. Should be very similar to registering a Lemmy account.

Finally, go to the setting of the PieFed instance and there is a Import & Export section. You can upload the JSON file you saved there and all your subscriptions and blocks will be carried over. Post history will not be included though as it’ll be a separate user.

[–] UndergroundParking@lemmy.cafe 1 points 3 weeks ago

There are a few instances that have them blocked. The one I'm on is such.

[–] MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Apart from this particular issue, why? Not a Marxist myself btw.

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 1 points 3 weeks ago

Argumentative and stupid. They also post propaganda genuinely.

[–] king_comrade@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I wish I had a proper Chinese source of news I could trust. I feel like everything that comes out of there is filtered through either Western or Chinese propaganda. Is there a Uyghur genocide? Ive heard all kinds of stories and at this point I have zero idea what's happening there at all. All I know, is with extreme authority, comes extreme abuses.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 16 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Take your pick:

https://www.aspi.org.au/report/cultural-erasure/

https://thehuman-rights.com/uyghurs-china-systematic-detention-cultural-erasure/

https://apnews.com/article/china-uyghur-banned-songs-xinjiang-f63ad27225ab1fc021c8d8949ca799c4

https://uyghurtimes.com/china-launches-new-wave-of-uyghur-cultural-erasure-after-ethnic-unity-law/

https://uyghurtimes.com/one-of-urumqis-iconic-uyghur-structures-demolished-amid-escalating-ethnic-unity-campaign/

https://www.uygurnews.com/tag/urumqi/

https://turkistanpress.com/en/page/uyghur-culture-being-erased-as-beijing-tightens-grip-on-east-turkistan-15-years-after-urumqi-riots/1704

They're doing it in Tibet too:

https://www.hrw.org/news/2026/05/04/china-harmonization-plan-erasing-tibetan-language

https://europeantimes.org/tibets-identity-disappearing-under-chinas-cultural-pogroms/

https://lawblogs.uc.edu/ihrlr/2025/05/29/learning-to-forget-chinas-dismantling-of-tibets-education-and-culture/

https://www.thenarrativeworld.in/Encyc/2025/12/15/systematic-erasure-of-identity-how-china-is-dismantling-tibetan-education.html

And in Inner Mongolia:

https://pen.org/report/inner-mongolia-china-repression/

https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/northern-frontier-culture-how-china-is-erasing-mongolia-from-mongolian-culture/

https://www.genocidewatch.com/single-post/china-accused-of-erasing-mongolian-culture-online

https://www.sentinelassam.com/more-news/international/china-accused-of-systematically-suppressing-mongolian-culture-report

It's all part of one overarching strategy they call "Cultural Unification" (pronounced: cultural erasure and forced assimilation).

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[–] natebluehooves@pawb.social 5 points 3 weeks ago

not being able to find the truth is the point.

[–] FreshLight@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

THANK YOU! I had a "discussion" with the ladies, gentlemen and non-binary people over at .ml a bit ago and thought that I was going insane.

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 2 points 3 weeks ago

You are insane. But not wrong.

[–] timestatic@feddit.org 1 points 3 weeks ago

I mean Taiwanese news exist and they cover stuff from the mainland. Most of them are probably biased as well but at least there's a spectrum since they have freedom of press

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

If you push tankies hard enough, they will eventually admit that they are willing murderers themselves and it is about power grab. They call out violence from anyone but their own side. They will cite other revolutions and coups to justify advocating for their own, but simultaneously thinks the same other revolutions they are inspired from are bad while their own is better. They are like the Nazis who gaslight and use hypocrisy to their own advantage. Tankies/Marxist Leninists are rightfully called red fascists after all.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"Rules for thee, not for me"

But they still get butthurt when you compare them to fascists, because they don't understand the difference between ideology and methodology.

Like, I could make that distinction crystal clear in my critique and yet they'll still go "But mah communism! It's a dictatorship of the proletariat, dumbass! Read more theory!" And then proceed to call me "blue fash" while trying to equate horseshoe theory to both-sides-ism 🙄

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Read more theory!

I just tell them that the only reason they aren't raging capitalists is that they haven't read enough Milton Friedman or Adam Smith. Read more theory! Not that way! (No, I'm not a believer in the Chicago School of economics.)

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I like to quote Marx to them without attribution just to watch it go right over their heads while they call me a "fascist shitlib"

[–] Thunderbird4@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

I have some of them tagged for saying things like “people like you are the reason there will be gulags” and “you’ll get the wall too” directly to other Lemmy users.

They’re determined that their superior philosophy will make the world a better place, no matter how many people they have to kill.

[–] TanteRegenbogen@feddit.org 3 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Luckily, I got .ml blocked on my piefed instance. Commenting from my feddit account because I am still working out the bugs on my piefed for example why I cant see posts from cm0002

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

people who are good in tech, sciences should really just concentrate on their craft instead of spouting something they dont know about, or care to research for validity of thier claims.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 weeks ago

Oh, they care to do research. They put a lot of research into confirmation bias, disinformation, and agitprop. It's some of the most thoroughly researched bullshit out there.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah because the Western war on terror was so totally benign and respectful of human rights.

The level of hypocrisy here is so wild.

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 33 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

My point is claiming China is fighting terrorism just like the US should be a criticism, not a defense. And these are people that (rightly) criticized US antiterrorism actions, so it's bizarre to then act like similar things are totally fine and normal when China does them.

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Ah I see. My misunderstanding.

[–] cm0002@infosec.pub 10 points 3 weeks ago

I think that's what they're saying, pretty sure they're calling out hypocrisy of the video itself not the post

Question, what keeps it from being defederated at all? I see how much of a problem it is but it's still there.

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