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Nowak's family called his treatment by police "inhumane and degrading" but in a statement outside court, his father said his death should not be "used to create further division, hatred or tension."
A man who lost his son has more reason in the situation than a political figurehead... I'm not surprised but, still.
"We should respond to this with pure cold rage."
No. You're adults and leaders. You can be angry but your response should be rational, not emotional.
I think the rational response to most of the stuff Farage says is rage.
Even if it were a true statement, they had a man stabbed in the heart handcuffed rather than getting him immediate medical attention. Like WTF
This is the thing that should be focussed on. The police have a duty of care to everyone and they failed appallingly here. The worst thing is watching this point being swept under the carpet as the right wing arseholes make racist capital out of it.
Sikhs are one of the nicest community in the world, the concept of Langar just facinates me but few people like these just taint the whole community really bad. Really sad news, i hope that man gets the punishment he deserves.
Digwa stabbed Nowak with a knife he said he was permitted to carry due to exemptions for Sikhs to have ceremonial daggers.
I don't understand this, isn't anyone "permitted" to carry a knife wherever they want to in public? Why do they say this like he had some kind of exemption
Welcome to the UK. You make the mistake of trying to apply logic. Just because a knife is a legitimate tool and you have a genuine reason to be using it doesn’t mean you won’t be charged. Their law simply does not care and if you’re caught it doesn’t matter the reason you had it.
Search engines are garbage and only give me results about the news story in the OP even with very specific search terms but there was one a few years ago where someone, I want to say he was a carpenter or tradesman of some sort had a normal pocket knife in his work pants outside of work and got arrested and convicted. The judge at his trial apologized and said it was unfortunate since the knife was a normal requirement for his work but the law is the law. They then returned the knife to him after the trial because they acknowledged it was needed for work.
So there are some things to consider here.
Thing 1: The UK law is that citizens should not carry a knife exceeding 3" in length in public unless they have good reason to. In reality, what this means is that unless you are a scumbag, there is not a problem. Going hunting? On the tools? Work as a chef? Not an issue. Being a sketchy gang member who intends to do harm to others? - now the public services have something to charge you with to prevent said behaviour. While there are exemptions to the rule for religious/cultural groups (Scots included), the reality is that it’s a non issue unless you plan on breaking the law.
Thing 2: The UK police have been chronically underfunded for decades as the wealth of the country has been gradually privatised and offshored by the very same groups who fund political parties like The Conservatives and Reform (who are currently stoking tension with this story) and whose donors, coincidentally, own much of the media. Police now receive very little training and not much pay. The organisation is very under-resourced.
Thing 3: The police officers attended the scene having been told by the perpetrators that they had been attacked and racially abused by a drunk man who then tried to climb over a fence and fell on his head. They entered the scene primed to find a drunk/drugged and violent muppet who had fallen on his own head having attacked a family on a domestic street. The police officers were incompetent, poorly trained, not that bright. What happened was tragic. They failed to perceive the truth… but to say the are somehow racist is a stretch. They were deceived by an unhinged man, who has been locked up already.
Lastly, thing 4: The Sikh idiot didn’t use the standard ceremonial (and often blunt) blade that Sikhs normally carry. He used a larger and very sharp one. I believe his family members (who assisted in the deception; his mother even hid the knife) are being charged with weapons offences today.
All very sad.
From the sounds of it, the newspaper is being deliberately misleading to drum up something or other.
Ding ding ding
Not sure about this exact locality, but there totally are places and areas where you are not permitted to carry knifes. The USA is really an exemption that people are allowed to carry assault rifles, grenade launchers and flamethrowers in the subway. Other countries have knife bans in place so that you are not allowed knifes in public transport or in other places
I live in central europe but still would never think twice about leaving the house or entering a tram with a knife in my backpack. I think I actually do still have a swiss army knife in there somewhere that I've been carrying literally anywhere I go for the last couple years.
To me it's a little strange to compare knives, which are primarily tools, to firearms that are from start to finish designed for the sole purpose of killing and injuring living things. My life would be worse without knives, I use them every single day. But I've never required a gun for anything
Uk law is you can carry up to a 3.5" folding knife as a general EDC. Obviously exemptions if your job requires it but they need to be stored correctly so chefs put them in canvas rolls, trades tool boxes etc
That's sick. What is wrong with those police officers?
ACAB.
What is wrong with those police officers?
I mean, you've got to be a power tripping piece of shit to want to be a cop in the first place, so probably that.
Even if the kid was an absolute turd, he didn't deserve to be treated like that.
Wonder if he gets to keep the murder weapon for use in prison.
The absolute audacity of his family to cover for him and obstruct to the point they could have played a role in the lost time due to reversal of victim and offender is insane. If they have dual citizenship or they retained their Punjab citizenship they need to be stripped of their UK immediately and thrn deported AFTER their prison sentence completes