Love it.
Just kinda sucks that your rights are dependent on your zip code here in the US.
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Love it.
Just kinda sucks that your rights are dependent on your zip code here in the US.
Minorities have had to deal with this since about the 1500s.
Don't wanna be the party popper, but corporations will still find a way. It would just happen more covertly.
Guessing it will be something like a "donate and we'll compensate that donation y%", where y might even exceed 100, or maybe even just a vague "if x candidate wins, we'll be doing so well everyone will probably get a raise".
Hawaii is a Republican state but somewhat progressive. And so is Alaska.
The power to create and limit corporations has been the exclusive power of States for 200 years and upheld multiple times in SCOTUS.
Devils advocate:
You're also sure it will be upheld under this SCOTUS?
SCOTUS will not have time for this before the midterms. So still a win for now.
Latest last week tonight is An eye opener on what they can really do when pressed by time and don't give a fuck.
The "Shadow docket" says hi.
In this instance it isn't law yet so I doubt there will be a rush to get to the SCOTUS yet, but the shadow docket is their favorite go-to with this administration to rush through whatever ruling they deem ~~will help Republicans~~ important.
Obviously not but wtf are they gonna do about it? They can't reign in a senile clown. As if they're gonna do anything California or New York gives a fuck about at this point.
What are they going to do?
"Corporations are people as per already established rulings."
"Political contributions are considered speech as per already established rulings."
"Hawaii is taking away poor poor corporations right to free speech under the first amendment, therefore it's unconstitutional and will be made null and void. Have fun shoveling money at your chosen candidates corporations! Don't forget my paycheck!"
All the way up until the US Supreme shuts that down
Sure but the current supreme court is openly corrupt. But who knows how far they are willing to go.
Fully agree. But what is the enforcement mechanism for SCOTUS to make the states repeal these laws if they indeed pass them?
Constitutional power is fundamentally different from the legal precedents SCOTUS has been overturning. Violating the constitutional right of a state could set a new precedent of State Supreme Courts ruling SCOTUS decisions illegitimate -based on constructional law.
I just don't see what SCOTUS can do about it other than wag their corrupt fingers in the air.
As a non-USAian and not a lawyer, what is the difference between power and speech? Isn't removing the power to "speak" (donating money) not an infringement on "free speech"?
Good question. TLDR speech is expression not capability
Corporations are legal entities created by the government whose jurisdiction they operate. As such everything they are allowed to do is fundamentally authorized by the state that creates them.
The video in the main link actually does a fantastic job of explaining this if you watch it through. Here is the relevant part to your question.
Thanks, the article helped more than the video :)
Thanks for sharing both.
Yea I prefer reading as well!
It is in conference committee now, one step away from Gov. Josh Green’s (D) desk.
Note that the bill is out of conference committee now (with these changes) and was signed on 14 May.
We'll see how it goes. Politics in Hawaii are very.. different that the continent. There are very entrenched power structures still in place from the kidnapping of Queen Liluokalani. Effectively the same sugar planter families responsible for the coup still largely control business and politics on the islands. And they were eugenics practicing but jobs looking to maintain a plantation system modeled after slave systems in the American South and the Caribbean, complete with racial heirarchies and the Master and Servants act. The impacts of that history get largely glazed over with lei stands and Aloha.
Most people outside of the islands probably don't know terms like "Asian settler colonialism" or recognize that in large part, the modern Hawaiian sovereignty movement is as rightwing and reactionary as the boogalou boys, and as kookie as the sovcits movement. Hawaii might be a blue state but it's hardly a monolith.
Also, Green, Schatz and Case all suck massively. I can't find any one to run to replace Case.
This is a terrific model for the other states.
Do this to USA? And what gun, self driving and AI companies will do after?
I'm sorry I don't follow.
If you don't stop these companies will infiltrate politicians with money to pass lows in their favour, so they make even more money.