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[–] Vree@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago

We need base Income for everyone, at some point … the problem that some earn more than anyone could ever spend, while many can’t afford food, will just become worse.

[–] Suoko@feddit.it 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Human-contact based jobs should still all be available. Frankly speaking: apart from the AI hype which should just make automated tasks easier, faster and error-proof in the digital world, what jobs are we talking about? Robots have been available since the industrustial revolution began since any machinery can be seen as a robot. Are we talking about luddism?

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

The objection is not to the technology but to what capitalism does with it.

[–] corm@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Automation is massively reducing the required headcount for corporate bullshit jobs (most american jobs?). Instead of 20 people shuffling an excel file around we just have one python script.

[–] keeb420@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Warehouses are becoming automated as well. Why have However many forklift drivers plus a maintenance department when you can just have a maintenance department. You might need a few new hires for the robots though.

[–] Pseu@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

And the forklifts removed dozens of jobs a piece in manual workers using hoists and pulleys to move material.

[–] blazera@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago

Ill gladly give a robot my human contact job. Retail customers destroy the soul

[–] arf_arf@reddthat.com 0 points 2 years ago

Meaningful work is the precondition to enjoying life. Socialism is not about empty hedonism while robots do everything. Socialism is about workers ruling this world, meaningful labor that contributes to society, having enough resources and leasure time to enjoy yourself.

But it’s not about not working.

[–] Blapoo@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

Once we reach a saturation point of jobs lost to AI, we'll have no choice but to either adopt UBI, or leverage the AI tech to "live for free". That, or just eat whoever has the 5 jobs left and therefore all the money, which feels meaningless to the rest of us.

God, I can't wait for AI to break money.

[–] Dreyns@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As much as i'm all in for automation, art should still be a job or we need to rethink society so that people (REAL PEOPLE) can still make movies, big production, video games etc...

[–] general_kitten@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

i'd say "now I'm free to actually enjoy life" means that people can do the jobs they want to without worrying whether they can afford to eat or not, so everyone can be an artist or make video games if they so wish.

[–] Dreyns@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

If only we could :')

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago

The robot's wage should really go to you, to compensate you for taking your job.