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[–] ComradeRandy@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 24 minutes ago

So is Venezuela joeover?

[–] SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

It's over. Evo is the next one. Then either Petro or his successor.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

It looks like people in Bolivia are organizing a lot more effectively than in Venezuela right now though. Seems like reports of MAS demise were greatly exaggerated.

https://xcancel.com/ChadGrabois/status/2055816527723581596

https://xcancel.com/Ollie_Vargas_/status/2055805141425754589

[–] SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 59 minutes ago) (1 children)

All of this feels like a long prelude to some action toward Brazil. (i.e. BRICS). Then there's the current social unrest in South Africa too.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 42 minutes ago (1 children)

I suspect so as well, the US is taking on smaller and weaker states, but eventually they will be used to surround Brazil and put it under siege.

[–] SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml 2 points 24 minutes ago (1 children)

I wonder how they would frame an military assault on the first speaker in every UN reunion.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 16 minutes ago

It seems like they don't even bother with putting the lipstick on a pig at this point.

[–] MasterBlaster@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Well that's not fucking good is it. Feeling like there was a deep political shift in Venezuela following the kidnapping and I was just coping when I believed they were still committed to their revolution.

[–] Lenins_Dumbbell@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 3 hours ago

Given Venezuela's position, I'm really just hoping the comrades there are safe. Venezuela is not battling or winning against US imperialism for at least a few decades. Things are going to get a whole lot worse there.

The revolution will survive, in underground meetings and small acts, but give up any hope of the government showing even a slight interest in building socialism. That ship is at the bottom of the sea.

[–] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I'm trying to find a better source on this than reuters. Here is where the statement appears to originate from: https://www.instagram.com/p/DYampbnN8fG/

[–] rainpizza@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 21 minutes ago

I'm curious, what's your assessment (if you have one) of the implications of this given everything you've read/posted about Venezuela in the past? It's easy for me to read it as a capitulation of some kind on the surface, but I don't know anything about Saab's actual history and whether he has meaningful ties to the revolution. The reuters source has this:

Saab could provide U.S. authorities with information to strengthen their criminal case against Maduro, according to sources familiar with the matter.

Maduro and his wife, ​Cilia Flores, ​were taken to ⁠New York in January to face criminal charges, including conspiracy to commit narcoterrorism. They deny ​the charges.

But like, what would this even mean substantively. Maduro is obviously not a "narcoterrorist." But is Saab an important figure in Venezuelan political power or is this chasing ghosts and that's why the Venezuelan government is willing to go along with it? I guess the crux of what I'm wondering is, is it a move that consolidates power of a new order or is it a performative survival move to keep distracting the US from worse pressures? Like what is the material result of doing this.