When smartphones became a thing, everyone had Samsungs. I played around on a classmate's Samsung Galaxy Whateverthefuck (might've been a Gio or a Y) and in addition to the hardware itself being shit because it was a low-end device in like 2010 or 2011, the software was HORRIBLE. So I vowed never to buy a Samsung and I still haven't. Maybe their software got good, maybe it didn't... But my first smartphone was an Xperia and the one after that was the second-gen Moto G. Quite stock-like Android and that's what I've preferred since (though I'm now on iOS, but that's a different story)

For F-Droid and for Accrescent too. Both would be amazing love this!! Added that suggestion to my latest post post on europe@feddit.org about things people want

Here's the link to the post:

https://lemmy.world/post/46554959

We might be able to get them to provide APKs with some luck and finesse, but I unfortunately don't see them publishing to F-Droid. F-Droid actually builds your APK from source themselves.

Actually, as I'm thinking about it, that may be true for F-Droid's main repo, but I know other repos exist, so maybe they could host their own that you would just add to your F-Droid's repo list?

Because ARM is a fucking mess. Each device has it's own of booting. There's no standard like UEFI or BIOS.

Plus you need propreitary code for modem to support 2G, 3G, 4G....etc. which are complicated to implement.

so, Linux does work, a lot of stuff works. There is nothing fundamentally different about phones other than them basically all running on ARM instead of x86, which is more common for PCs. More development of stuff for X86 Linux than ARM Linux, although less of a difference than there use to be.

Really the issue is proprietary stuff built on top of android and IOS. Stuff that a lot of useful apps rely on for security and functionality. For instance banking apps are super locked down for obvious reasons, but the standards that have been adopted by the industry for mobile banking are all entangled with proprietary close source stuff.

You can't use Google Wallet to pay with NFC, they don't have Miracast, and Chromecast can supposedly work butI haven't been able to get it to work. Those are the three major hurdles I've found, but getting away from Google was a priority so I'll live without them.

NFC can have other providers other than Google Wallet, but I haven't found any that I find trustworthy enough yet. Supposedly the EU is making an alternative.

GrapheneOS has partnered with Motorola and were supposed to see phones that come with GOS sometime in 2027

Wait really? Ooo I have to check that out. Thanks!

@cdzero @viov Btw, Ubuntu mobile is long ceased to exist, what is this ubuntu touch thing now?