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[–] Armand1@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't know what you were expecting.

You more or less have to have an account to use a paid feature. Especially for a free trial.

It's only Mulvad (which is apparently what Firefox uses under the hood) who doesn't use an email address as an identifier.

[–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

iiuc Firefox uses Mullvad for original paid VPN service but their new freemium one is through Fastly (?)

[–] Lychee@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You mean the same Fastly as in CDN? That's a nope for me

[–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yep, Fastly the CDN company (doing HTTPS mitm-as-a-service for millions of websites) which Apple also uses (along with CloudFlare) for their similar iCloud Private Relay feature.

Unlike Apple though, Firefox's new "built-in VPN" does not claim (falsely) to use different providers for ingress and egress.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Every free VPN in the world spies on you.

If you want a VPN that actually respects your privacy, you must pay for it.

[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 2 points 2 weeks ago

Well, yeah. You still have to be careful with it. But at least it's possible to find a good paid one.

Some paid VPNs spy on you. All free VPNs spy on you.

[–] Geodes_n_Gems@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

ProtonVPN doesn't

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 weeks ago

Ya, I just noped that right off the toolbar when it popped up. "Enable our data mining tool!... For security!"

[–] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

you guys still use native ff?

[–] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

All of the reasons for switching away from native Firefox don't hold up to scrutiny, and there are real disadvantages to switching away.

[–] Geodes_n_Gems@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago

I was so much happier switching to Librewolf TBH

[–] kolle@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I moved off to forks of chromium and ff

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

i did this with iceweasel and learned that those forks always go dormant eventually. they sometimes get revived like iceweasel did, but you should atleast expect to keep jumping from active fork to active fork.

[–] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

aw damn :( this is true. zen and chromium seem to have solid update schedules after some poking around. librewolf isn’t too bad either but def agreed with you

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

i'm dreading the day that i have to give up on mozilla permanently and switch to some sort of chromium browser because of it.

[–] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

unfortunately I have to use what the mass populace uses for testing / development

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

i'll always be convinced that front end guy always have it the worst; both from the masses and the frequently changing casts of frameworks.

[–] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

pretty much ><

[–] Mangoholic@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

Mullvad vpn