It will be interesting to see in the aftermath of this war when russia finally gives up whether China, having essentially bought up most of russia through various different firesales and business dealings, will step in and flood russia with alternative energy capacity because all of the oil and gas infrastructure in russia was destroyed by Ukraine and it is too expensive to replace.

At this rate russia will be forced into a green energy revolution because they are refusing to stop fighting Ukraine and any oil and gas infrastructure they rely on is a sitting duck for Ukraine's flying bombs given the collapse of russian air defenses.

It would certainly be amusing to see such an ass-backwards place forced into adopting alternative energy even though they hate it ideologically/culturally.

[–] wltr@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

There won’t be any they in the first place, I hope. Just a set of different countries and nations.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Fair, but my point is that whatever the names and political divisions that take hold in the aftermath of russia collapsing from its catastrophic failure in the Ukraine War, the landscape and people are desperately going to need to rebuild energy infrastructure at a time that investment is going to be pretty hard to come by I imagine, out of pure necessity many people in former russian territory will be forced to turn to solar power and alternative energy to rebuild a decentralized grid. In the end I guess it will be a tiny silver lining, but I don't think it will happen because culturally russia comes around to thinking green energy is important.

I think it will surprise people how quickly solar grows in places like russia though, in unfortunately many industrialized parts of the world not thrown apart by war there is an active denial politically and culturally that alternative energy/solar is just cheaper the fossil fuels no matter how you feel about them, places like the shattered former russian territories will have no choice but to admit that in action if not in words.

[–] wltr@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 5 days ago

Yes, sorry, I failed to mention this is a great idea, I think. Not really obvious at first, but there’s no real alternative anyway. Vast territories would make a pretty decent space for solar and wind.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 1 points 5 days ago

At this rate russia will be forced into a green energy revolution

China is probably happy to sell them the equipment. Double dip with first sell ~~war~~ double use material and then renewable energy equipment.

[–] Vergissmeinnicht@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

the number of intact tank clusters suggests there will be at least a fourth and fifth attack.

[–] carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

During which the air defense situation will remain somehow still unaddressed in any tangible way.

[–] Vergissmeinnicht@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 days ago

"what air defense doing" indeed

[–] The_v@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

Very rude of Russian to not put thos giant fires out sooner. How is Ukraine supposed to pick out their next targets with all that smoke in the way?