I know what your asking, but im picturing someone zooming by at lightspeed, screaming their message. The person on the ground/stationary just hears the faintest dopler effect as LS person speeds by.
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Bad news: If a person was moving at the actual speed of light, from their own perspective they would arrive at their destination instantly. This means they wouldn’t have time to send or receive a message at all!
Assuming a velocity close but not quite as fast as C, yes, you would see severe differences in the speed of the communication. One party would be super slowed down and the other would be super sped up.
Bad news: If a person was moving at the actual speed of light, from their own perspective they would arrive at their destination instantly.
Another commenter here asked about an interesting set-up where the person moving lightspeed is circling around the stationary person. This is of course super impractical but it might allow them to communicate without catching up to one another instantly
Assuming a velocity close but not quite as fast as C, yes, you would see severe differences in the speed of the communication. One party would be super slowed down and the other would be super sped up.
Okay I guess that answers my question then
the angular momentum you would feel from circling someone at light speed would probably tear your limb from limb.
the angular momentum you would feel from circling someone at light speed would probably tear your limb from limb.
Limb from limb? Either those limbs are massless, or you've just given yourself infinite mass traveling at c with an infinite energy. You'd probably tear the fabric of reality limb from limb.
Not with a big enough circle. But I'm assuming we're talking cosmic-scale circles here, with the circle covering an appreciable portion of the observable universe in order to make the g-forces bearable.
Anything moving at the speed of light in one reference frame is moving at the speed of light in every reference frame—including its own.
Which is to say, it’s not a real reference frame at all—the experience of moving at the speed of light would be instant teleportation with no subjective elapsed time. So trying to talk to someone moving at light speed would be like talking to a still image.
the experience of moving at the speed of light would be instant teleportation with no subjective elapsed time
I thought time slows down when you approach the speed of light though
Only in comparison to (relative to) others. A photon from the sun experiences no time at all between leaving the sun and landing in your eye but we perceive it as eight minutes.
Oh I see. That makes sense. The fact that it's experiencing less time is why, relative to us, it's time seems to be running slower
Physicist here. Many common misconceptions in the comments.
- No, someone traveling at light speed won't arrive "instantly" or anything of the sort. It's simply not possible for massive objects to travel at the speed of light in any valid (inertial) frame of reference. Any system that does travel at the speed of light (e.g. a photon) does not have a frame of reference in which it is at rest - instead, it moves at the speed of light in all frames of reference.
If the other person travels at some speed (just) below the speed of light, the signal they send will be Doppler shifted/time dilated according to their relative velocity.
- No, quantum entanglement cannot and never has been used to communicate faster than light. See: no-communication theorem.
Thanks for clearing that up
It’s simply not possible for massive objects to travel at the speed of light in any valid (inertial) frame of reference.
I know there are a lot of impossibilities baked into how this scenario is set up. But hypothetically, if you could have a spaceship travelling at the speed of light, and hypothetically if they could communicate with someone who is stationary (ignoring Doppler effect etc), what would it be like to talk to them? Would the time dilation make it seem like the person travelling at lightspeed is speaking very slow?
This hypothetical is of the type "immovable object versus unstoppable force." The question becomes: which of the axioms of relativity do you want to discard? Yet, once you do, you are leaving the realm of physics and entering the realm of sci-fi, in which anything may be possible.
If you want to maintain any link to our current understanding of physics, there are no hypotheticals, no ifs or buts. It's simply not possible to have a set of laws of physics consistent with relativity as we understand it, wherein massive objects can travel at the speed of light in vacuum.
Okay well let’s just stipulate that the object is travelling close to enough to the speed of light for there to be time dilation of some sort. Or maybe the object is stationary but near a black hole or something so there is time dilation from the gravity
Okay well let’s just stipulate that the object is travelling close to enough to the speed of light for there to be time dilation of some sort.
There is always time dilation between any two frames of references moving at nonzero speed with respect to each other. It's generally negligible for everyday velocities, but it's still there. You can find the degree of time dilation (and length contraction for that matter) in special relativity (i.e. ignoring gravity) by computing the gamma/Lorentz factor. For example, for 90% of the speed of light, the Lorentz factor is about 2.29.
Or maybe the object is stationary but near a black hole or something so there is time dilation from the gravity
In that case, it depends on how strong the gravitational effect is. The mathematics is a bit more complicated though. I would recommend to stick to special relativity if you're learning about relativity as an interested layman.
Yes. Distant galaxies that are moving away from us at relativistic speeds exhibit measurable time dilation in their inner workings.
How would you even measure time dilation in a distant galaxy? Consider standard candles like 1a supernova, which explode with near uniform power. These supernova can be observed from intergalactic distances. Gather data and record the times for various supernova explosions. You'll find that the same types of explosions take longer in more distant galacies, and that the extra time is exactly what relativity predicts.
You’ll find that the same types of explosions take longer in more distant galacies, and that the extra time is exactly what relativity predicts.
That's incredibly cool. From a point of view of a being near that supernova, would we be moving a lot faster?
From the point of view being near the distant supernova, we are moving away from them at relativistic speed, so as much slower as they appear to us, we should appear that much slower to them.
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So, I would assume that you would be communicating through radio waves. If an object broadcasting a signal moving at the speed light away from you, I would further assume you experience a severe Doppler effect. To the point that I don't think you would experience anything coherent. You would receive small packets of information at a time, scattered across several million years.
This is just my initial impression on the fly, do not take this as any sort of gospel. I also did some communcations work for a time. So, this is tickling my brain and I might spend the rest of my evening in my books.
If we assume that the person moving at light speed is going in circles about the stationary person instead of linearly away. Would the radio waves be doppler shifted if transmitted orthogonally?
Ooh, interesting point.
I suspect all EM would be shifted according to the angle relative to the target - so at exactly 90° It would be "half shifted" - or zero. (Assumption based on blue/red shift of light).
I'm assuming the traveler is at a percentage of C, not at C (I think being at C is a completely different scenario, like would any EM escape the traveler?).
But I'm only an armchair quantum physicist (I've read a few books over the years). Look forward to what someone who understands Quantum Weirdness has to say.
One would have to be orbiting the other. I don't think you'd get any doppler shift in that signal, because the distance between transmitter and receiver remain constant.
The fun part of that scenario is that emitted photons carry momentum from your motion. If you're moving at a significant fraction of the speed of light, hopefully you're using an omnidirectional transmitter.
If an object broadcasting a signal moving at the speed light away from you, I would further assume you experience a severe Doppler effect.
In principle you could have equipment that cancels out any doppler effect, no?
I also did some communcations work for a time. So, this is tickling my brain and I might spend the rest of my evening in my books.
That's awesome, let me know if you find anything interesting
To cancel the effect of someone moving away from you, the equipment would simply hold the transmission until you received the whole thing.
Like waiting for someone to finish leaving a message on an amswerimg machine before hitting play.
I see
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I remember in the game series Mass Effect they spoke of being able to break the EM communication barrier problems. They used a quantum entangled pair. Wiggle one, and the other instantaneously adopts the same position anywhere in the universe.
FTL travel needs FTL coms and radio ain't that. Star Trek handwavium called it subspace. Both of science fiction, but hey, isn't that what all this is about.
Huh?
What manner of communication moves faster than light?
It would have to be some sort of entanglement, And I think the entanglement would also normalize any time dilation. There's not exactly a way to test that yet, it's all hypothetical.
But it should just cancel out and be like you're talking to someone in the same room.
Like, there's no way for the communication (in any form) to go faster than light continuously. If it was two stationary points than wormholes or other stuff could work.
But moving at light speed, it has to be entanglement
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Exactly at the speed of light, the γ-coefficient would be infinite and so would be the time dialation. The eigen time of the moving person would thus be infinitely slower than the non-moving person. From the perspective of the stationary person, the time of the moving person would stand still and thus the person would never say anything. Very close to the light speed, when the coefficients are large, this problem eases but persists. The stationary person would have to wait for very long (and use a massive Doppler shift of the moving signal) to perceive something. At the end of the conversation, it will have lasted much longer for the stationary person, spending years on this. The twin paradox would basically kick in as well. If the moving person is at a speed too close to the speed of light, the stationary person might die before the conversation is over—assuming the stationary person is not immortal. That is kind of a very slow motion, yes. What a dedication, spending a lifetime on a person who can’t slow down ;-) Funny enough, from the perspective of the moving person, the effect is reversed.
Interesting. That makes sense, thanks for explaining
I don't actually know, but to my understanding...
Firstly it would be impossible because of the doppler effect and the fact that at these speeds you would go around the earth in about the same time it takes to say "Hello" , but if you ignore that:
At a difference of around 260,000 KM/S you could actually have a time dilation difference that would be perceived by the observer (the slow one) as 0.5x and anything said by the traveler would be heard by the observer in slow motion.
Again, I have no physics background, so...
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