this post was submitted on 25 Apr 2026
233 points (100.0% liked)

Fuck Cars

15739 readers
339 users here now

A place to discuss problems of car centric infrastructure or how it hurts us all. Let's explore the bad world of Cars!

Rules

1. Be CivilYou may not agree on ideas, but please do not be needlessly rude or insulting to other people in this community.

2. No hate speechDon't discriminate or disparage people on the basis of sex, gender, race, ethnicity, nationality, religion, or sexuality.

3. Don't harass peopleDon't follow people you disagree with into multiple threads or into PMs to insult, disparage, or otherwise attack them. And certainly don't doxx any non-public figures.

4. Stay on topicThis community is about cars, their externalities in society, car-dependency, and solutions to these.

5. No repostsDo not repost content that has already been posted in this community.

Moderator discretion will be used to judge reports with regard to the above rules.

Posting Guidelines

In the absence of a flair system on lemmy yet, let’s try to make it easier to scan through posts by type in here by using tags:

Recommended communities:

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 
top 20 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world 51 points 2 weeks ago

Well then expecting cyclists to not destroy your vehicles is too much as well…

[–] pedz@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Beyond the absurdity autonomous cars only following selected rules of the road, doesn't London have pretty good public transit?! Like, among the best in the world for a big city. Why in the fucking world would Waymo operate there unless it wants to compete public transit and bikes.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

... London is famous for it's taxis. Their role in london culture goes back centuries.

[–] pedz@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

AFAIK taxis don't pretend to be "sustainable".

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I suppose if that's a pressing concern for them, they could always go back to the horse-drawn versions... Though I'm not sure what that has to do with the relevancy of the role taxis play in London transit.

[–] bryndos@fedia.io 3 points 2 weeks ago

They're a plague on the city.

But they have a lot of political clout as they can jam up all the bus lanes when anything slightly inconvenient happens to them.

[–] bryndos@fedia.io 3 points 2 weeks ago

it's ok, but far from best in the world, most archaic maybe.

Far too many fucking taxis blocking bus lanes. and it's very expensive to use the trains. Taxi drivers would go nuts and dirty protest all over the city if anyone proposed to cut fares.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

If they stop in a bike lane there is some error in the software.
You can fix that by hitting that big black reset button on the roof with a sledge hammer

[–] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Given that there's no one driving the car, there little disincentive to smash a tail light or window of one of these things pull in front of you.

You can also disable them nonviolently.

[–] Cherry@piefed.social 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Does the cone thing still work?

[–] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I've never tried it, but I haven't heard that it was thwarted yet.

[–] brockhold@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Is it illegal to stop in a bike lane in London? A quick search suggests it is in fact legal. That sucks, they should change that. It's illegal to drive a car in a protected bike lane in CA, and Waymo follows the law. When it's not a protected bike like, they put their stupid huge SUV into the lane and sit for as long as legally allowable and it sucks.

[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 6 points 2 weeks ago

You may sometimes be permitted to stop or park in a cycle lane, even when it is in use, but only when the normal rules of our red routes allow. Signs or road markings will let you know where this is permitted.

https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/red-routes/rules-of-red-routes/cycle-lanes

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 weeks ago

Well they can expect people to casey neistat their taxi .

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago

This is like saying they can't be expected to avoid pedestrians using crosswalks. Customers are expecting the car to drive through the crosswalk when there's no one is crossing...so how are they expected to avoid hitting people who are crossing the street?

[–] tinfoilhat@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago

Expecting a Molotov cocktail to respect a driverless taxi is also "too high a bar"

[–] insight06@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

We tried training our AI on real-world bike-lane-respecting telemetry, but there just wasn't enough data!

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

To be fair to self driving companies, regular drivers seem to have trouble with this task as well.

[–] MrKoyun@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Oh, but letting AI take over the world is a very justifiable and achievable goal that will have no negative effects I am sure.

[–] Decq@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Simple solution, just burn them down because that's what people 'expect' you to do with them.