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[–] tal@lemmy.today 86 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

A Kuala Lumpur-bound AirAsia flight

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AirAsia

AirAsia X Berhad (MYX: 5238), operating as AirAsia, is a Malaysian multinational low-cost airline headquartered near Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.

I mean, you're on a budget Malaysian airline flying to Malaysia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia

National language (official): Malay[a][b][c]
Recognised languages: English[c]

[–] hr_@lemmy.world 32 points 3 weeks ago

Don't get me wrong, this woman is a Karen and actually quite typical of the mainland China entitlement and behavior. BUT there's a massive amount of mandarin speaking people in Malaysia to the point where it's a destination for mainland Chinese. Not excusing her ridiculous behavior but providing context here.

[–] BurnedDonutHole@ani.social 73 points 3 weeks ago (24 children)

Unless you experienced Asian racism you didn't experience racism fully. They don't like anyone, even their own people. I've witness people being racist because someone is from another village let alone a city or country. I wonder if they also hate themselves as well.

[–] zeejoo@thelemmy.club 38 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Wouldn't hating someone from another village just be like generic Xenophobia? I can't imagine two villagers from the same Asian country but two different villages are genetically distinct enough to count as different "races". Or are we just using "racist" to mean "bigoted"

[–] Klear@quokk.au 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Race is a social construct, not genetic.

[–] srecko@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I agree, but that construct has a specific meaning, we don't consider a random person from nearby village to be a different race.

[–] ech@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

"We" isn't as universal as you are suggesting here.

[–] srecko@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 weeks ago

Tuk me a while but you are right. Didn't think about it enough.

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[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Depends. Many Asian countries consists of many different ethnic groups. So they do see each other as different races.

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[–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Very good point, that doesn't seem like racism to me either

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[–] rozodru@piefed.world 27 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I play EVE Online which has a decently sized Chinese playerbase and my god those racist fucks would give racists in the west a run for their money. See it daily of "small brained whites" or "The whites are here" or "white pig" or "sleepy whites".

But as soon as you joke and say "man it looks like the Tianamen Square Massacre of 1989 in here" in local chat they all collectively freak out on you.

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 27 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Well man, they just are being mean and you suddenly drop a -100k social credit account bomb with area of effect.

[–] setsubyou@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I've witness people being racist because someone is from another village

We have this in Germany too. Traditionally, the area where I live hates the area where I was born. These two places are maybe an hour apart and in the same state. All because they were governed by different nobles ages ago who had different ideas about Christianity. Tbh though it was much more of a thing in my parents’ generation.

[–] mech@feddit.org 42 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

In Germany, hating others based on where they were born becomes more socially accepted the closer the "other" gets.
Hating people from other countries is bad, hating people from East Germany is problematic, hating people from the neighboring German state is OK and hating people from the neighboring village is funny.

[–] nysqin@feddit.org 8 points 3 weeks ago

Damn, that's surprisingly apt.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

I mean? If it leads to a mostly harmless rivalry, that’s quite fun.

Somehow, I get the feeling it’s not that.

[–] Thorry@feddit.org 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes I have experienced the exact same. I was questioned by "locals" when I moved villages. They wanted to know if I was doing enough for the community and keeping up with local events. My man I was born less than 10kms away.

I guess they just prefer inbreeding and keeping the village to themselves. Not realizing without all the new construction and new people the village would have died out 20 years ago.

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[–] mech@feddit.org 8 points 3 weeks ago

That's not racism, that's just being an asshole.

[–] NotEasyBeingGreen@slrpnk.net 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean, people in a town I lived in were upset because kids from the next town over were using the public swimming pool. This was in northern Virginia, so not liking people from another village anywhere in the world hardly seems strange.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 3 weeks ago

seems like classist/elitist, than racism.

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[–] Redvenom@retrolemmy.com 43 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The 'everyone should adapt to my needs' shit needs to end for all countries

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Si, me tienen las pelotas re contra llenas

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[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 28 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I wonder what the Chinese equivalent of a Karen is...

[–] EvergreenGuru@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

It’s delightful to see this phenomenon happening in another country.

[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] SorryImLate@piefed.social 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Interesting read but not the same as a Karen in my mind.

Teng Wei, a professor at South China Normal University wrote, "When we use dama as an insult, what we're really doing is suggesting that there's something inherently wrong with being a middle-aged woman. It's ageist, classist — and it's time to stop."

[–] mech@feddit.org 16 points 3 weeks ago

Of course it's not the same. It's a completely different culture and history.
But Teng Wei's criticism applies to the "Karen" insult as well.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 5 points 3 weeks ago

Let's be honest - that exact same subtle misogyny follows "Karen" as well.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 27 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

People being surprised that bad people can come from other countries is a weird take on US exceptionalism that I didn't expect.

[–] ech@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Really? I see it every time. Bad thing happens in US: "Of course it did. Where else could it?" Bad thing happens outside of US: "Wow. [Other Place] really acting like the US here." Apparently racism, violence, and most other human sins only exist in the US to some people. It's weird.

[–] Soulg@ani.social 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

This, but especially since Trump was elected again it's been notched up to 11,000. It's quite annoying actually

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[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Lots of countries have their own exceptionalism going on. Especially in the demographics that can afford to travel.

[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I’m not saying she was right, but I will say, if I was flying from the United States to Mexico, I would be very confused if the flight crew only spoke Chinese.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, but, that's not what happened here. It was an international flight, and there were employees who spoke Chinese, and did so to try to calm her down. She was mad at one employee for not speaking Chinese.

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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Didn't expect a Chinese Karen on my timeline this morning.

[–] FrChazzz@lemmus.org 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This makes me wonder: what is the Mandarin-language equivalent of the American "Karen?"

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[–] Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk 6 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

British thing as well. Fuck you if you're from Derby.

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[–] allywilson@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

Rise of the Mandarin-elite?

[–] ruuster13@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 weeks ago

Rise of the Mandarolians

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

It seems fair to assume that if someone on a flight continues to use their phone after being told not to that they are a dumbass American. 😉

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